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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Reshetova, Elena" <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"keescook@chromium.org" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"ishkamiel@gmail.com" <ishkamiel@gmail.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	<boqun.feng@gmail.com>, <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	<david@fromorbit.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] refcount: provide same memory ordering guarantees as in atomic_t
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 16:28:45 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1711021622121.1277-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171102174504.GA19833@andrea>

On Thu, 2 Nov 2017, Andrea Parri wrote:

> > This is forbidden.  It would remain forbidden even if the smp_mb in P1 
> > were replaced by a similar release/acquire pair for the same memory 
> > location.
> 
> Hopefully, the LKMM does not agree with this assessment... ;-)

No, it doesn't.

> Here's a two-threads example showing that "(w)mb is _not_ rfi-rel-acq":
> 
> C rfi-rel-acq-is-not-mb
> 
> {}
> 
> P0(int *x, int *y, int *a)
> {
> 	WRITE_ONCE(*x, 1);
> 	smp_store_release(a, 1);
> 	r1 = smp_load_acquire(a);
> 	WRITE_ONCE(*y, 1);
> }
> 
> P1(int *x, int *y)
> {
> 	int r0;
> 	int r1;
> 
> 	r0 = READ_ONCE(*y);
> 	smp_rmb();
> 	r1 = READ_ONCE(*x);
> }
> 
> exists (1:r0=1 /\ 1:r1=0)

Right.  There is a happens-before edge between the two WRITE_ONCE calls
in P0 but no cumul-fence edge, and therefore the test is allowed.  
Here is an example where a happens-before edge suffices to provide
ordering:

P0(int *x, int *y)
{
	WRITE_ONCE(*x, 1);
	smp_wmb();
	WRITE_ONCE(*y, 1);
}

P1(int *x, int *y, int *a)
{
	int rx, ry, ra;

	ry = READ_ONCE(*y);
	smp_store_release(a, 1);
	ra = smp_load_acquire(a);
	rx = READ_ONCE(*x);
}

exists (1:rx=0 /\ 1:ry=1)

This test is forbidden, but it would be allowed if the release and 
acquire accessed different locations.

Alan Stern

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-02 20:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-23 11:09 [PATCH] refcount: provide same memory ordering guarantees as in atomic_t Elena Reshetova
2017-10-23 13:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-27  6:49   ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-10-27 13:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-02 11:04       ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-11-02 13:57         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-02 15:40           ` Alan Stern
2017-11-02 16:02             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-02 16:45               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-02 17:08               ` Alan Stern
2017-11-02 17:16                 ` Will Deacon
2017-11-02 17:26                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-02 20:21                   ` Alan Stern
2017-11-15 18:05                     ` Will Deacon
2017-11-15 19:15                       ` Alan Stern
2017-11-15 20:03                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-15 20:22                           ` Alan Stern
2017-11-16  8:46                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-15 21:01                           ` Andrea Parri
2017-11-16  8:58                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-16 10:00                               ` Andrea Parri
2017-11-02 17:45                 ` Andrea Parri
2017-11-02 20:28                   ` Alan Stern [this message]
2017-11-03 11:55           ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-11-13  9:09           ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-11-13 13:19             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-11-13 16:01               ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-11-13 16:26                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-11-14 11:23                   ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-11-14 17:24                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-11-16 13:44             ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-16 15:29               ` Paul E. McKenney

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