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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>, <parri.andrea@gmail.com>,
	<j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>, <luc.maranget@inria.fr>,
	<boqun.feng@gmail.com>, <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	<peterz@infradead.org>, <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	<dhowells@redhat.com>, <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
	<mhocko@suse.com>, <akiyks@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL tools] Linux kernel memory model
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 17:10:06 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1802031708380.29515-100000@netrider.rowland.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180203084809.GE3617@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Sat, 3 Feb 2018, Paul E. McKenney wrote:

> Please see below for an initial patch to this effect.  This activity
> proved to be more productive than expected for these tests, which certainly
> supports our assertion that locking needs more testing...
> 
> MP+polocks.litmus
> MP+porevlocks.litmus
> 
> 	These are allowed by the current model, which surprised me a bit,
> 	given that even powerpc would forbid them.  Is the rationale
> 	that a lock-savvy compiler could pull accesses into the lock's
> 	critical section and then reorder those accesses?  Or does this
> 	constitute a bug in our model of locking?
> 
> 	(And these were allowed when I wrote recipes.txt, embarrassingly
> 	enough...)
> 
> Z6.0+pooncelock+poonceLock+pombonce.litmus
> 
> 	This was forbidden when I wrote recipes.txt, but now is allowed.
> 	The header comment for smp_mb__after_spinlock() makes it pretty
> 	clear that it must be forbidden.  So this one is a bug in our
> 	model of locking.

I just tried testing these under the most recent version of herd, and 
all three were forbidden.

Alan

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-03 22:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-25  9:34 [GIT PULL tools] Linux kernel memory model Paul E. McKenney
2018-01-29  6:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-29  9:54   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-01-31  9:00     ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-31 10:08       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-31 23:53         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-01  1:17       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-01  6:57         ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-01 23:14           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-02  4:46         ` Boqun Feng
2018-02-02  5:40           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-03  8:48       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-03 22:10         ` Alan Stern [this message]
2018-02-04  9:16           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-04 10:17             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-04 16:29               ` Andrea Parri
2018-02-05  5:00                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-04 16:37               ` Alan Stern
2018-02-05  7:19                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-08 18:41 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-02-08 20:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-09  9:11     ` Andrea Parri
2018-02-09 11:29       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-09 12:41         ` Andrea Parri
2018-02-09 12:56           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-09 11:33   ` Paul E. McKenney

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