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From: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
To: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
Cc: Eric Varsanyi <e0206@foo21.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [Patch][RFC] epoll and half closed TCP connections
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:11:21 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.55.0307131610100.15022@bigblue.dev.mcafeelabs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MDEHLPKNGKAHNMBLJOLKGEFKEFAA.davids@webmaster.com>

On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, David Schwartz wrote:

>
> > Let's look at what the poll code does :
> >
> > 1) It has to allocate the kernel buffer for events
> >
> > 2) It has to copy it from userspace
> >
> > 3) It has to allocate wait queue buffer calling get_free_page (possibly
> > 	multiple times when we talk about decent fds numbers)
> >
> > 4) It has to loop calling N times f_op->poll() that in turn will add into
> > 	the wait queue getting/releasing IRQ locks
> >
> > 5) Loop another M loop to copy events to userspace
> >
> > 6) Call kfree() for all blocks allocated
> >
> > 7) Call poll_freewait() that will go with another N loop to unregister
> > 	poll waits, that in turn will do another N IRQ locks
>
> 	This is really just due to bad coding in 'poll', or more precisely very bad
> for this case. For example, why is it allocating a wait queue buffer if the
> odds that it will need to wait are basically zero? Why is it adding file
> descriptors to the wait queue before it has determined that it needs to
> wait?
>
> 	As load increases, more and more calls to 'poll' require no waiting. Yet
> 'poll' is heavily optimized for the 'no or low load' case. That's why 'poll'
> doesn't scale on Linux.

However you implement poll(2) you have "at least" to do one iteration
among the interest set, and hence your implementation will be O(N).



- Davide


  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-13 23:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-12 18:16 [Patch][RFC] epoll and half closed TCP connections Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-12 19:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-12 20:51   ` Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-12 20:48     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-12 21:19       ` Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-12 21:20         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-12 21:41         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-12 23:11           ` Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-12 23:55             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13  1:05               ` Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-13 20:32       ` David Schwartz
2003-07-13 21:10         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 23:05           ` David Schwartz
2003-07-13 23:09             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  8:14               ` Alan Cox
2003-07-14 15:03                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  1:27             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 21:14         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13 23:05           ` David Schwartz
2003-07-13 23:11             ` Davide Libenzi [this message]
2003-07-13 23:52             ` Entrope
2003-07-14  6:14               ` David Schwartz
2003-07-14  7:20                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  1:51             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  6:14               ` David Schwartz
2003-07-15 20:27             ` James Antill
2003-07-16  1:46               ` David Schwartz
2003-07-16  2:09                 ` James Antill
2003-07-13 13:12     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 16:55       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-12 20:01 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13  5:24   ` David S. Miller
2003-07-13 14:07     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 17:00       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13 19:15         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 23:03           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  1:41             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  2:24               ` POLLRDONCE optimisation for epoll users (was: epoll and half closed TCP connections) Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  2:37                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  2:43                   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  2:56                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:02                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  3:16                       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:21                         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  3:42                           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  4:00                             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  5:51                               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  6:24                                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  6:57                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:12                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:17                       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  3:35                         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:04                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:12                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  3:27                       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14 17:09     ` [Patch][RFC] epoll and half closed TCP connections kuznet
2003-07-14 17:09       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14 21:45       ` Jamie Lokier

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