From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261744AbTLHSxk (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:53:40 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261735AbTLHSxk (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:53:40 -0500 Received: from fw.osdl.org ([65.172.181.6]:32428 "EHLO mail.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261744AbTLHSxh (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:53:37 -0500 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:53:24 -0800 (PST) From: Linus Torvalds To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu cc: bill davidsen , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: cdrecord hangs my computer In-Reply-To: <200312081753.hB8HrQfD019477@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: References: <20031207110122.GB13844@zombie.inka.de> <200312081753.hB8HrQfD019477@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > > Amen. > > At least when network interfaces do it, I can use 'nameif' to beat them > into submission. What's _wrong_ with you people? The reason you need 'nameif' for network devices is that the kernel actually cares about them. But for normal device nodes, you have thousands of tools to rename them, and you can have a million different names for the same thing if you want to. Valdis: for /dev/hdxx, you can rename it with such esoteric programs as 'mv', 'ln', 'perl', 'cp', 'mknod', 'emacs', and a few hundred others. What is your beef with it? In fact, every distribution I know of comes with it already aliased to /dev/cdrom, without you having to lift a pinky to do _anything_ about it. And quite frankly, anybody who finds cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom less intuitive than cdrecord dev=1,0,0 is so drugged and mindwashed by the cdrecord authors that it's not even funny any more. So stop spreading this incredible crap, guys. How about you just admit that I was right. If that's hard to do, add a comment like "Just this once Linus happened to pick a winner. Incredible, but it was probably just a fluke. He's still a drugged-out idiot most of the time." to make it feel a bit better. Linus