From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262711AbVAFDw3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Jan 2005 22:52:29 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262712AbVAFDw3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Jan 2005 22:52:29 -0500 Received: from wombat.indigo.net.au ([202.0.185.19]:21008 "EHLO wombat.indigo.net.au") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262711AbVAFDwO (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Jan 2005 22:52:14 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:52:07 +0800 (WST) From: Ian Kent X-X-Sender: raven@wombat.indigo.net.au To: Rik van Riel cc: Andries Brouwer , William Lee Irwin III , Maciej Soltysiak , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: starting with 2.7 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <1697129508.20050102210332@dns.toxicfilms.tv> <20050102203615.GL29332@holomorphy.com> <20050102212427.GG2818@pclin040.win.tue.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-102.5, required 8, EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION, IN_REP_TO, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_PINE, USER_IN_WHITELIST) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Rik van Riel wrote: Oh so true. > On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, Andries Brouwer wrote: > > > You change some stuff. The bad mistakes are discovered very soon. > > Some subtler things or some things that occur only in special > > configurations or under special conditions or just with > > very low probability may not be noticed until much later. > > Some of these subtle bugs are only discovered a year Or longer and it doesn't need to be a large system. > after the distribution with some particular kernel has > been deployed - at which point the kernel has moved on > so far that the fix the distro does might no longer > apply (even in concept) to the upstream kernel... > > This is especially true when you are talking about really > big database servers and bugs that take weeks or months > to trigger. And it doesn't have to be large and complex just infrequently hit code path. This happens much more frequently than anyone wants but that's the the way it is. Ian