From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964796AbWAIPgn (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:36:43 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964801AbWAIPgn (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:36:43 -0500 Received: from xenotime.net ([66.160.160.81]:28584 "HELO xenotime.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S964796AbWAIPgl (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:36:41 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 07:36:37 -0800 (PST) From: "Randy.Dunlap" X-X-Sender: rddunlap@shark.he.net To: Lee Revell cc: Yaroslav Rastrigin , Alistair John Strachan , andersen@codepoet.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [OT?] Re: Why the DOS has many ntfs read and write driver,but the linux can't for a long time In-Reply-To: <1136819703.9957.10.camel@mindpipe> Message-ID: References: <174467f50601082354y7ca871c7k@mail.gmail.com> <200601091403.46304.yarick@it-territory.ru> <1136814862.9957.5.camel@mindpipe> <200601091751.27405.yarick@it-territory.ru> <1136819703.9957.10.camel@mindpipe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 9 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote: > On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 17:51 +0300, Yaroslav Rastrigin wrote: > > Hi, Lee, > > On 9 January 2006 16:54, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Where are the bug reports? You didn't expect these to just fix > > > themselves did you? > > Been there, done that. Bugreport about malfunctioning (due to ACPI) 3c556 in IBM ThinkPad T20 was looked at once in a few months without any progress, > > and I've finally lost track of it after changing hardware. In more than a year this problem wasn't solved, so I'm assuming bugreports aren't so effective. > > 2200BG ping and packet loss problem was reported in ipw2200-devel mailing list recently (by another user), and the only answer was > > "Switch to version 1.0.0" (which is tooo old and missing needed features and bugfixes, so recommentation was unacceptable). So I'm assuming addressing > > developers directly is not too effective either. > > Two other options I see are to debug/fix it by myself and try to stimulate others monetarily. First option isn't really affordable for me , > > so I'm trying to research second. > > Bug reports certainly are effective, but if no one else can reproduce > your problem then obviously it can't be fixed. That's not a good attitude IMO. I'd bet that Linus and Andrew have fixed lots of bugs that they couldn't reproduce. > A bug report that gets no responses is a good sign that you need to > provide more information or work a little harder to debug it yourself. -- ~Randy