Re: ide-scsi is deprecated for cd burning! Use ide-cd and give dev=/dev/hdXas device

From: David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com>
To: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ide-scsi is deprecated for cd burning! Use ide-cd and give dev=/dev/hdXas device
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:50:22 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0502181249110.5315@dlang.diginsite.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cv5hv3$ana$1@gatekeeper.tmr.com>

I regularly burn tarballs to a CD without useing a filesystem and as long 
as I use the -pad option when burning I've had no problems reading them 
(the -pad was nessasary even when I was useing ide-scsi)

David Lang

  On Fri, 18 Feb 
2005, Bill Davidsen wrote:

> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:23:44 -0500
> From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
> To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Newsgroups: mail.linux-kernel
> Subject: Re: ide-scsi is deprecated for cd burning! Use ide-cd and give
>     dev=/dev/hdXas device
> 
> Kiniger, Karl (GE Healthcare) wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 05:58:05PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:42:21 +0100, "Kiniger, Karl (GE Healthcare)" 
>>>> said:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> Have you tested the ISO on some *OTHER* hardware?  The impression 
>>>>>> I got
>>>>>> was that the cd was *burned* right by ide-cd, but when *read 
>>>>>> back*, it
>>>>>> bollixed things up at the end of the CD.....
>>>>> 
>>>>> Using ide-scsi is enough to get all the data till the real end of 
>>>>> the CD.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> OK, so the problem is that ide-cd is able to *burn* the CD just fine, 
>>>> but it
>>>> suffers lossage when ide-cd tries to read it back...
>>>> 
>>>> Alan - are the sense-byte patches for ide-cd in a shape to push either 
>>>> upstream
>>>> or to -mm?
>>> 
>>> The last time I looked at this, the issue was that the user software did 
>>> a large read and the ide-cd didn't properly return a small data block 
>>> with no error, but rather returned an error with no data. If you get the 
>>> size of the ISO image, you can read that with any program which doesn't 
>>> try to read MORE than that.
>> 
>> 
>> Not entirely true (at least for me). I actually tried to read the last 
>> iso9660 data sector with a small C program (reading 2 kb) and
>> it failed to read the sector. Using ide-scsi I was able to read it.....
>> 
>> sdd (from Joerg Schilling) should not try to read more than ivsize
>> bytes (InputVolumeSize) if that argument is given - I did not
>> verify with strace though.
>
> I'll try to build a truth table for this, I'm now working with some non-iso 
> data sets, so I'm a bit more interested. I would expect read() to only try to 
> read one sector, so I'll just do a quick and dirty to get the size from the 
> command line, seek and read.
>
> I haven't had a problem using dd to date, as long as I know how long the data 
> set was, but I'll try to have results tonight.
>
> Thanks for your additional info on this.
>
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