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From: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>, Ulrich Mueller <ulm@kph.uni-mainz.de>,
	Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Byron Stanoszek <gandalf@winds.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH ]  VMSPLIT config options (with default config fixed)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 15:56:34 +0100 (MET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0602061554550.31522@yvahk01.tjqt.qr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1139174355.3131.50.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>

>> >> What userspace programs do depend on it?
>> >
>> >there is a lot of userspace that assumes they can do 2Gb or even close
>> >to 3Gb of memory allocations. Databases, java, basically anything with
>> >threads. Sure for most of these its a configuration option to reduce
>> >this, but that still doesn't mean it's a good idea to change from the
>> >existing behavior...
>> > 
>> Not to mention that these (almost(*)) fail anyway when you have less than 2 
>> GB of RAM.
>
>it's not really overcommit... it can also be file mmaps or shared mmaps
>of say tmpfs files (the later is common with oracle actually)
>

So, just as I did in the sample patch, the manual split shall depend on 
EMBEDDED. Those who run fat databases with big malloc/mmap assumptions 
don't probably belong to the group using CONFIG_EMBEDDED.


Jan Engelhardt
-- 

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-06 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-10 12:58 2G memory split Jens Axboe
2006-01-10 13:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-10 13:37   ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-10 13:43     ` Byron Stanoszek
2006-01-10 13:47       ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-10 14:39       ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-10 14:44         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-10 15:03           ` [PATCH] Address space split configuration Jens Axboe
2006-01-10 15:11             ` Mark Lord
2006-01-10 15:24             ` Mikael Pettersson
2006-01-10 16:14         ` 2G memory split Linus Torvalds
2006-01-10 16:40           ` Mark Lord
2006-01-10 16:52             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-01-10 18:33               ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
2006-01-10 17:07           ` Mark Lord
2006-01-10 17:28             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-01-10 17:32             ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-10 17:37               ` Mark Lord
2006-01-10 18:58                 ` Mark Lord
2006-01-10 19:16                   ` [PATCH ] VMSPLIT config options (with default config fixed) Mark Lord
2006-01-10 17:37                     ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-01-10 19:27                     ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-11  1:13                     ` J.A. Magallon
2006-01-11 10:15                       ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-11 16:00                     ` Greg Norris
2006-01-11 17:13                       ` Mark Lord
2006-01-11 17:44                         ` Greg Norris
2006-02-05 18:42                         ` Barry K. Nathan
2006-02-01 22:23                     ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-02 11:04                       ` Ulrich Mueller
2006-02-02 20:55                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-03 22:39                           ` Mark Lord
2006-02-04 10:23                             ` Ulrich Mueller
2006-02-04 11:06                               ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-04 10:36                             ` Jens Axboe
2006-02-04 11:05                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-04 13:57                               ` Mark Lord
2006-02-05 15:32                                 ` J.A. Magallon
2006-02-05 15:38                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-05 21:14                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-05 21:19                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-06 14:56                                     ` Jan Engelhardt [this message]
2006-02-07  0:41                                       ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-07  2:51                                         ` Mark Rustad
2006-02-07  9:38                                         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-02-07 12:19                                           ` RFC: add an ADVANCED_USER option Adrian Bunk
2006-02-07 14:05                                             ` Ulrich Mueller
2006-02-07 14:42                                               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-09 16:06                                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-10 17:48             ` 2G memory split Bernd Eckenfels
2006-01-10 16:30               ` [PATCH] " Jeff V. Merkey
2006-01-10 18:50                 ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-01-10 17:13                   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-01-10 19:42               ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-10 20:17                 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-01-10 20:28                   ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-11  8:39                     ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-01-11 10:06                       ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-10 18:14           ` Martin Bligh
2006-01-10 18:34             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-01-10 16:56               ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-01-10 17:01                 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-01-10 18:45                 ` Mark Lord
2006-01-10 18:46                 ` Martin Bligh
2006-01-10 18:58                 ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-10 17:17                   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-01-10 20:55                 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-10 19:12                   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-01-10 21:02                     ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-10 19:30                       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-01-10 18:39               ` Martin Bligh
2006-01-10 18:55               ` Dave Hansen
2006-01-10 19:01                 ` Mark Lord
2006-01-10 19:05                   ` Dave Hansen
2006-01-10 17:07         ` Sergey Vlasov
2006-04-10 14:11           ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-10 14:39             ` Mark Lord
2006-01-10 18:28         ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
2006-01-10 13:47 ` Mikael Pettersson
2006-01-10 13:54   ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-10 14:09     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2006-01-10 14:21       ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-10 14:25       ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-10 20:42   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-11  0:25     ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-10 14:12 ` Mark Lord
2006-01-10 14:22   ` Jens Axboe
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2006-02-05 20:20                             ` [PATCH ] VMSPLIT config options (with default config fixed) Bodo Eggert
2006-02-05 22:13                               ` Jeff Dike

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