From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1031474AbXDZT6t (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:58:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1031480AbXDZT6t (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:58:49 -0400 Received: from mailer.gwdg.de ([134.76.10.26]:41900 "EHLO mailer.gwdg.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1031474AbXDZT6r (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:58:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:57:58 +0200 (MEST) From: Jan Engelhardt To: Linus Torvalds cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.21 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Report: Content analysis: 0.0 points, 6.0 required _SUMMARY_ Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Apr 26 2007 09:40, Linus Torvalds wrote: >On Thu, 26 Apr 2007, Jan Engelhardt wrote: >> >For example, I can certainly say that after 2.6.21, I'm likely to be very >unhappy merging something that isn't "obviously safe". I knew the timer >changes were potentially painful, I just hadn't realized just *how* >painful they would be (we had some SATA/IDE changes too, of course, it's >not all just about the timers, those just ended up being more noticeable >to me than some of the other things were). Perhaps do one at a time [ at the cost of queueing other stuff, yeah :( ] Like: 2.6.21 - only NO_HZ & hrtimers, and the SATA code in .22. Probably does not work out in reality, so perhaps just live with long rc cycles. (Let rc8 come.) >So we should have somebody like Christoph running -mm, and when things >break, we'll just sic Christoph on whoever broke it, and teach people >proper fear and respect! As it is, I think people tend to send things to >-mm a bit *too* eagerly, because there is no downside - Andrew is a "cheap >date" testing-wise, and always puts out ;) Yes, perhaps we need a weakchanges-mm ("weak" is inteded, not to be confused with week) that can carry stuff like doc updates, Kconfig updates, etc. - patches that are a little more than -trivial. Jan --