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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: better leve triggered IRQ management needed
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 12:02:47 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0604241156340.3701@g5.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060424114105.113eecac@localhost.localdomain>



On Mon, 24 Apr 2006, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
>
> We should fail request_irq() if the SA_SHIRQ but the irq is edge-triggered.

That would be HORRIBLE.

Edge-triggered works perfectly fine for SA_SHIRQ, as long as there is just 
one user and the driver is properly written. Making request_irq() fail 
would break existing and working setups.

If you have a driver that requires level-triggered interrupts, then your 
driver is arguably buggy. NAPI or no NAPI, doesn't matter. Edge-triggered 
interrupts is a fact of life, and deciding that you don't like them is not 
an excuse for saying "they should not work".

You can get an edge by having your driver make sure that it clears the 
interrupt source at some point where it requires an edge.

And yes, that may mean that when you're ready to start taking interrupts 
again, you are required to first read all pending packets, instead of just 
assuming that a level-triggered interrupt will "just happen", but that's 
the harsh reality for writing a driver that actually WORKS.

For a driver writer, there is one rule above _all_ other rules:

	"Reality sucks, deal with it"

That rule is inviolate, and no amount of "I wish", and "it _should_ work 
this way" or "..but the documentation says" matters at all.

If you can't take that rule, don't write drivers, and don't design 
infrastructure for them.

		Linus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-04-24 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-24 18:41 better leve triggered IRQ management needed Stephen Hemminger
2006-04-24 18:59 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-04-24 19:02 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2006-04-24 19:08   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-24 19:53     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-24 20:16       ` Alan Cox
2006-04-24 20:43         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-24 21:07           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-24 21:20             ` Alan Cox
2006-04-24 22:26               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-24 21:22             ` [RFC 1/2] irq: record edge-level setting Stephen Hemminger
2006-04-24 21:49               ` Alan Cox
2006-04-24 21:41                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-04-24 22:34                   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-24 22:58                     ` Stephen Hemminger
     [not found]             ` <20060424141926.3872f921@localhost.localdomain>
2006-04-24 21:22               ` [RFC 2/2] warn on shared edge-triggered irq Stephen Hemminger
2006-04-25 15:23             ` better leve triggered IRQ management needed Michael Buesch
2006-04-24 19:15   ` Russell King
2006-04-24 20:18     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-24 19:25   ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-04-24 19:35   ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-04-24 20:19     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-24 20:50       ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-04-24 21:09         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-29 21:25 ` Alan Cox
2006-04-29 21:58   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-30  4:48     ` Neil Brown
2006-04-30  5:19       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-30  6:13         ` Neil Brown
2006-04-30  6:59           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-02  5:10             ` Neil Brown
2006-05-02 15:05               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-30  7:36       ` Arjan van de Ven

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