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From: Giuliano Pochini <pochini@shiny.it>
To: Helge Hafting <helgehaf@aitel.hist.no>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Killing/balancing processes when overcommited
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:02:21 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <XFMail.20020913150221.pochini@shiny.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D81C3EF.9509A4D0@aitel.hist.no>


> This is hard to setup, and has the some weaknesses:
> 1. You worry only about apps you _know_.  But the guy who got
> his netscape or make -j killed will rename his
> copies of these apps to something else so your carefully
> set up oom killer won't know what is running.
> (How much memory is the "mybrowser" app supposed to use?)
> Or he'll get another software package that you haven't heard of.
>
> 2. Lots and lots of people running netscapes using
> only 70M each will still be too much.  Think of
> a university with xterms and then they all
> goes to cnn.com or something for the latest news
> about some large event.
>
> Even nice well-behaved apps
> is bad when there is unusually many of them. [...]

That's obvious. The point is that the sysadmin should be
able to hint the oom killer as much as possible.
The current linux/mm/oom_kill.c:badness() takes into account
many factors. The sysadmin should be able to affect the
badness calculation on process/user/something basis.



Bye.


  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-13 12:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-12 19:00 Killing/balancing processes when overcommited Jim Sibley
2002-09-12 19:08 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-12 20:35   ` Alan Cox
2002-09-12 20:43     ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-12 20:55       ` Alan Cox
2002-09-12 21:15         ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-12 21:22           ` Jesse Pollard
2002-09-12 23:08           ` Alan Cox
2002-09-12 23:12             ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-12 21:19       ` Jesse Pollard
2002-09-12 21:56         ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-13  7:51           ` Giuliano Pochini
2002-09-13 10:17             ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-12 19:09 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-13  8:05 ` Giuliano Pochini
2002-09-13 10:54   ` Helge Hafting
2002-09-13 13:02     ` Giuliano Pochini [this message]
2002-09-13 16:40       ` Gerhard Mack
2002-09-13 20:23   ` Timothy D. Witham
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-09-13 21:13 Jim Sibley
2002-09-13 22:31 ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-09-13 22:38   ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-09-13 22:44   ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-13 23:12     ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-09-16  7:29     ` Helge Hafting
2002-09-16 14:03       ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-16 18:49         ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-09-16 19:11           ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-16 20:27             ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-09-14  0:23   ` Jim Sibley
2002-09-12 18:14 Jim Sibley
2002-09-11 18:08 Jim Sibley
2002-09-11 18:27 ` Jurriaan
2002-09-12  8:26   ` Helge Hafting
2002-09-11 21:44 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-12  7:06 ` Tim Connors
2002-09-12  7:25 ` Giuliano Pochini
2002-09-12 16:02   ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-12 18:30   ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-13  8:17     ` Giuliano Pochini
2002-09-13 10:22       ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-13 12:53 ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-09-13 12:54   ` Jesse Pollard

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