From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>,
Joao Moreira <joao@overdrivepizza.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/ibt: Implement FineIBT
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 22:05:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y08G73HOddpS40ny@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202210181020.79AF7F7@keescook>
On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 11:09:13AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> I still think it's worth noting it does technically weaken the
> "attacker-controlled executable memory content injection" attack
> requirements, too. While an attacker needs to make sure they place an
> ENDBR at the start of their injected code, they no longer need to also
> learn and inject the CFI hash too, as the malicious code can just not
> do the check at all. The difference in protection currently isn't much.
Hmm, true; although I do feel that the moment attackers can write code
we might be having worse problems.
> It's not a very difficult requirement to get attacker-controlled bytes
> into executable memory, as there are already existing APIs that provide
> this to varying degrees of reachability, utility, and discoverability --
> for example, BPF JIT when constant blinding isn't enabled (the unfortunate
> default).
BPF has another problem in that the current control transfer to BPF
progs is nocfi. At the very least we can have them have a hash, no?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-18 20:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-18 13:35 [PATCH] x86/ibt: Implement FineIBT Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-18 14:43 ` David Laight
2022-10-18 15:58 ` Joao Moreira
2022-10-18 17:20 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-18 20:09 ` Joao Moreira
2022-10-19 5:33 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-18 21:27 ` David Laight
2022-10-18 14:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-18 18:09 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-18 19:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-18 23:31 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-10-19 5:22 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-19 11:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-19 5:14 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-18 19:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-18 21:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-19 5:05 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-19 12:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-19 15:22 ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-10-20 11:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-18 19:59 ` Joao Moreira
2022-10-19 5:32 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-19 19:35 ` Joao Moreira
2022-10-18 20:05 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2022-10-19 5:00 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-18 20:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-18 20:17 ` Joao Moreira
2022-10-18 20:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-19 4:48 ` Joao Moreira
2022-10-19 5:19 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-31 19:13 ` Joao Moreira
2022-11-01 21:39 ` Kees Cook
2022-11-01 21:50 ` Joao Moreira
2022-10-19 5:18 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-19 5:16 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-20 11:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-18 23:38 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-10-19 7:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-21 23:08 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-10-22 15:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-24 17:15 ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-10-24 18:38 ` Joao Moreira
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