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From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@fb.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH rcu 13/14] workqueue: Make queue_rcu_work() use call_rcu_flush()
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2022 12:49:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y1ZtyjxKCcV0Hfjn@pc636> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221024031540.GU5600@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1>

> On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 08:36:00PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 6:51 PM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > call_rcu() changes to save power will slow down RCU workqueue items
> > > queued via queue_rcu_work(). This may not be an issue, however we cannot
> > > assume that workqueue users are OK with long delays. Use
> > > call_rcu_flush() API instead which reverts to the old behavio
> > 
> > On ChromeOS, I can see that queue_rcu_work() is pretty noisy and the
> > batching is much better if we can just keep it as call_rcu() instead
> > of call_rcu_flush().
> > 
> > Is there really any reason to keep it as call_rcu_flush() ?  If I
> > recall, the real reason Vlad's system was slowing down was because of
> > scsi and the queue_rcu_work() conversion was really a red herring.
> 
<snip>
*** drivers/acpi/osl.c:
acpi_os_drop_map_ref[401]      queue_rcu_work(system_wq, &map->track.rwork);

*** drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_execlists_submission.c:
virtual_context_destroy[3653]  queue_rcu_work(system_wq, &ve->rcu);

*** fs/aio.c:
free_ioctx_reqs[632]           queue_rcu_work(system_wq, &ctx->free_rwork);

*** fs/fs-writeback.c:
inode_switch_wbs[604]          queue_rcu_work(isw_wq, &isw->work);
cleanup_offline_cgwb[676]      queue_rcu_work(isw_wq, &isw->work);

*** include/linux/workqueue.h:
__printf[446]                  extern bool queue_rcu_work(struct workqueue_struct *wq, struct rcu_work *rwork);

*** kernel/cgroup/cgroup.c:
css_release_work_fn[5253]      queue_rcu_work(cgroup_destroy_wq, &css->destroy_rwork);
css_create[5384]               queue_rcu_work(cgroup_destroy_wq, &css->destroy_rwork);

*** kernel/rcu/tree.c:
kfree_rcu_monitor[3192]        queue_rcu_work(system_wq, &krwp->rcu_work);

*** net/core/skmsg.c:
sk_psock_drop[852]             queue_rcu_work(system_wq, &psock->rwork);

*** net/sched/act_ct.c:
tcf_ct_flow_table_put[355]     queue_rcu_work(act_ct_wq, &ct_ft->rwork);

*** net/sched/cls_api.c:
tcf_queue_work[225]            return queue_rcu_work(tc_filter_wq, rwork);
<snip>
There are 9 users of the queue_rcu_work() functions. I think there can be
a side effect if we keep it as lazy variant. Please note that i have not
checked all those users.

> There are less than 20 invocations of queue_rcu_work(), so it should
> be possible look through each.  The low-risk approach is of course to
> have queue_rcu_work() use call_rcu_flush().
> 
> The next approach might be to have a Kconfig option and/or kernel
> boot parameter that allowed a per-system choice.
> 
> But it would not hurt to double-check on Android.
> 
I did not see such noise but i will come back some data on 5.10 kernel
today.

> 
> > Vlad, any thoughts?
> > 
At least for the kvfree_rcu() i would like to keep the sync variant, because
we have the below patch that improves bathing:

<snip>
commit 51824b780b719c53113dc39e027fbf670dc66028
Author: Uladzislau Rezki (Sony) <urezki@gmail.com>
Date:   Thu Jun 30 18:33:35 2022 +0200

    rcu/kvfree: Update KFREE_DRAIN_JIFFIES interval

    Currently the monitor work is scheduled with a fixed interval of HZ/20,
    which is roughly 50 milliseconds. The drawback of this approach is
    low utilization of the 512 page slots in scenarios with infrequence
    kvfree_rcu() calls.  For example on an Android system:
<snip>

Apparently i see it in the "dev" branch only.

--
Uladzislau Rezki

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-24 10:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-19 22:51 [PATCH rcu 0/14] Lazy call_rcu() updates for v6.2 Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-19 22:51 ` [PATCH rcu 01/14] rcu: Simplify rcu_init_nohz() cpumask handling Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-19 22:51 ` [PATCH rcu 02/14] rcu: Fix late wakeup when flush of bypass cblist happens Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-19 22:51 ` [PATCH rcu 03/14] rcu: Fix missing nocb gp wake on rcu_barrier() Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-19 22:51 ` [PATCH rcu 04/14] rcu: Make call_rcu() lazy to save power Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-19 22:51 ` [PATCH rcu 05/14] rcu: Refactor code a bit in rcu_nocb_do_flush_bypass() Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-19 22:51 ` [PATCH rcu 06/14] rcu: Shrinker for lazy rcu Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-19 22:51 ` [PATCH rcu 07/14] rcuscale: Add laziness and kfree tests Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-19 22:51 ` [PATCH rcu 08/14] percpu-refcount: Use call_rcu_flush() for atomic switch Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-19 22:51 ` [PATCH rcu 09/14] rcu/sync: Use call_rcu_flush() instead of call_rcu Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-19 22:51 ` [PATCH rcu 10/14] rcu/rcuscale: Use call_rcu_flush() for async reader test Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-19 22:51 ` [PATCH rcu 11/14] rcu/rcutorture: Use call_rcu_flush() where needed Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-19 22:51 ` [PATCH rcu 12/14] scsi/scsi_error: Use call_rcu_flush() instead of call_rcu() Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-19 22:51 ` [PATCH rcu 13/14] workqueue: Make queue_rcu_work() use call_rcu_flush() Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-24  0:36   ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-24  3:15     ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-24 10:49       ` Uladzislau Rezki [this message]
2022-10-24 12:23         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-10-24 14:31           ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-24 15:39             ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-24 16:25               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-10-24 16:48                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-24 16:55                   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-10-24 17:08                     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-10-24 17:20                       ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-24 17:35                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-24 20:12                           ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-24 20:16                             ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-25 10:48                               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-10-25 15:05                                 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-26 20:35                                   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-10-24 20:19                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-24 20:26                               ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-24 17:40                         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-10-24 20:08                           ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-25 10:47                             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-10-28 21:23                   ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-28 21:42                     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-31 13:21                     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-10-31 13:37                       ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-31 18:15                       ` Joel Fernandes
2022-11-01  4:49                         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-10-24 16:54                 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-19 22:51 ` [PATCH rcu 14/14] rxrpc: Use call_rcu_flush() instead of call_rcu() Paul E. McKenney

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