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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv4 4/9] zsmalloc: make huge class watermark zs_pool member
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2022 10:07:06 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y22gOgLJJvB/5/d+@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y216Xq8V8InFQyms@google.com>

On (22/11/10 14:25), Minchan Kim wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 02:41:03PM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> > We will permit per-pool configuration of pages per-zspage value,
> > which changes characteristics of the classes and moves around
> > huge class size watermark. Thus huge class size needs to be
> > a per-pool variable.
> 
> I think part of code in previous patch should move here since
> you are creating the feature in this patch:

What do you mean? This patch - make huge_class_size a pool value - looks
completely independent to me.

> BTW, I am wondering we really need to jump the per-pool config
> option over global general golden ratio and/or smarter approach
> to optimize transparently depending on how much memory we have
> wasted.

I like the per-zspool value.

Dynamic zspage sizing is going to be very very difficult if possible at
all. With different zspage limits we create different size class clusters
and we also limit huge size class watermark. So if we say, increase the
zspage length value, then we have more size classes: but in order for us
to actually start saving memory we need to move objects that waste
memory in previous cluster configuration to new classes. It's even more
complex with huge objects. When we say move huge size class watermark
from 3264 to 3632 then in order to actually save memory we need to
recompress huge objects and put them into size classes that are between
3264 and 3632.

And that's only half. We also can lower the zspage length limit and
we'll have less size classes (because they merge more) and move huge
size class watermark from 3632 back to 3264. How do we handle this?

I really think that per-zspool knob is the easiest way. And it doesn't
block us from doing any improvements in the future.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-11  1:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-31  5:40 [PATCHv4 0/9] zsmalloc/zram: configurable zspage size Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-10-31  5:41 ` [PATCHv4 1/9] zram: add size class equals check into recompression Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-10-31  5:41 ` [PATCHv4 2/9] zsmalloc: turn zspage order into runtime variable Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-11-10 21:59   ` Minchan Kim
2022-11-11 10:38     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-11-11 17:09       ` Minchan Kim
2022-11-14  3:55         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-10-31  5:41 ` [PATCHv4 3/9] zsmalloc: move away from page order defines Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-11-10 22:02   ` Minchan Kim
2022-10-31  5:41 ` [PATCHv4 4/9] zsmalloc: make huge class watermark zs_pool member Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-11-10 22:25   ` Minchan Kim
2022-11-11  1:07     ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2022-10-31  5:41 ` [PATCHv4 5/9] zram: huge size watermark cannot be global Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-10-31  5:41 ` [PATCHv4 6/9] zsmalloc: pass limit on pages per-zspage to zs_create_pool() Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-11-09  6:24   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-11-11 17:14     ` Minchan Kim
2022-11-11  2:10   ` Minchan Kim
2022-11-11 10:32     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-10-31  5:41 ` [PATCHv4 7/9] zram: add pages_per_pool_page device attribute Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-11-09  4:34   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-10-31  5:41 ` [PATCHv4 8/9] Documentation: document zram pages_per_pool_page attribute Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-11-11  2:20   ` Minchan Kim
2022-11-11 10:34     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-10-31  5:41 ` [PATCHv4 9/9] zsmalloc: break out of loop when found perfect zspage order Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-11-10 22:44 ` [PATCHv4 0/9] zsmalloc/zram: configurable zspage size Minchan Kim
2022-11-11  0:56   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-11-11 17:03     ` Minchan Kim
2022-11-14  3:53       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-11-14  7:55       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-11-14  8:37       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-11-15  6:01       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-11-15  7:59         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-11-15 23:23           ` Minchan Kim
2022-11-16  0:52             ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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