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From: Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Jithu Joseph <jithu.joseph@intel.com>, <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	<markgross@kernel.org>, <tglx@linutronix.de>, <mingo@redhat.com>,
	<dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>, <x86@kernel.org>, <hpa@zytor.com>,
	<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org>, <patches@lists.linux.dev>,
	<ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>, <thiago.macieira@intel.com>,
	<athenas.jimenez.gonzalez@intel.com>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/14] x86/microcode/intel: Expose microcode_sanity_check()
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2022 12:25:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y2QVrEGkfvpT/2KB@a4bf019067fa.jf.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y2OnHuSHgIMGxcUH@zn.tnic>

On Thu, Nov 03, 2022 at 12:33:50PM +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 01:34:06PM -0700, Jithu Joseph wrote:
> > IFS test image carries the same microcode header as regular Intel
> > microcode blobs. Microcode blobs  use header version of 1,
> > whereas IFS test images will use header version of 2.
> > 
> > microcode_sanity_check() can be used by IFS driver to perform
> > sanity check of the IFS test images too.
> 
> So I'm very sceptical about such reuse.

The generic parts of the microcode is completely common between IFS and CPU
microcode. The parts that differ are in the meta-data. 

CPU microcode has stayed the same for over 15 years roughly. Changing
formats isn't something that's done lightly especially since there is cost
of enabling in all OS's. 

Both are in the same class of microcode, consumed by the CPU. Inside Intel
the format change is also pretty strict that they have several levels of
approval within the HW teams and also needs review and approval from SW
teams.

What probably is best is that we should document that the external formats
are shared in the header and probably in the shared routines. Changing
names as you suggested to be more generic is in the right track.

> Then the testing burden won't be an issue and there won't be any
> potential cross-breakages.

Even if its only a few hundred lines of code, it seems odd to simply
duplicate for the sake of fear of testing.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-03 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 193+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-21 20:33 [PATCH 00/14] IFS multi test image support and misc changes Jithu Joseph
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 01/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Remove unused selection Jithu Joseph
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 02/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Propagate load failure error code Jithu Joseph
2022-10-24 22:52   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-10-24 23:17     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 03/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: return a more appropriate Error code Jithu Joseph
2022-10-24 22:57   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-10-24 23:01     ` Luck, Tony
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 04/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Remove image loading during init Jithu Joseph
2022-10-24 23:50   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-10-25  0:41     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-10-25  6:06       ` Sohil Mehta
2022-10-26 23:53         ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-01  7:00           ` Sohil Mehta
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 05/14] x86/microcode/intel: Expose find_matching_signature() for IFS Jithu Joseph
2022-11-02 19:03   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-02 21:32     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 06/14] x86/microcode/intel: Use appropriate type in microcode_sanity_check() Jithu Joseph
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 07/14] x86/microcode/intel: Expose microcode_sanity_check() Jithu Joseph
2022-11-01  7:28   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-01 19:06     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-03 11:33   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-03 19:25     ` Ashok Raj [this message]
2022-11-03 23:32       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-04  6:15     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-04 10:50       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-04 22:02         ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-04 22:14           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 08/14] x86/microcode/intel: Meta-data support in microcode file Jithu Joseph
2022-11-01  8:51   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-01 18:05     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-03 11:35   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 09/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Use generic microcode headers and functions Jithu Joseph
2022-11-01 18:37   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-01 21:07     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 10/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add metadata validation Jithu Joseph
2022-11-01 20:28   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-09 23:10   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 11/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Remove reload sysfs entry Jithu Joseph
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 12/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add current_batch " Jithu Joseph
2022-11-01 22:26   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-01 23:27     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-03  8:03       ` Sohil Mehta
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 13/14] Documentation/ABI: Update IFS ABI doc Jithu Joseph
2022-11-01 22:34   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-01 22:48     ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-01 22:59       ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-02 22:10         ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-03  7:49           ` Sohil Mehta
2022-10-21 20:34 ` [PATCH 14/14] Revert "platform/x86/intel/ifs: Mark as BROKEN" Jithu Joseph
2022-11-03  8:21 ` [PATCH 00/14] IFS multi test image support and misc changes Sohil Mehta
2022-11-07  9:24 ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-07 23:01   ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-07 22:53 ` [PATCH v2 " Jithu Joseph
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 01/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Remove unused selection Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09  1:52     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10 21:03     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 02/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: return a more appropriate Error code Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09  1:57     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10 21:04     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 03/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Remove image loading during init Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09  1:59     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10 21:06     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 04/14] x86/microcode/intel: Expose find_matching_signature() for IFS Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09  2:06     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-11 13:44     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 05/14] x86/microcode/intel: Use appropriate type in microcode_sanity_check() Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09  2:47     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-11 13:46     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 06/14] x86/microcode/intel: Expose microcode_sanity_check() Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09  3:03     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-09  3:29       ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-11 14:33     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-11 21:39       ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 07/14] x86/microcode/intel: Use a reserved field for metasize Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09  3:06     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-11 14:37     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 08/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add metadata support Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09  3:25     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10 21:08     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-11 16:16     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 09/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Use generic microcode headers and functions Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09  3:29     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10 21:11     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-11 16:23     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-11 20:41       ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-16 17:26       ` Tony Luck
2022-11-16 18:53         ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-16 19:02           ` Luck, Tony
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 10/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add metadata validation Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09 23:15     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10  1:22       ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-10  9:40         ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10 21:18     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-11 18:39     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-11 18:48       ` Dave Hansen
2022-11-11 20:30         ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-11 21:29         ` Ashok Raj
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 11/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Remove reload sysfs entry Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09 23:16     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10 21:19     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 12/14] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add current_batch " Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09 23:46     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10 21:22     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-12 16:26     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-12 18:21       ` Thiago Macieira
2022-11-12 19:20         ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-12 19:58           ` Ashok Raj
2022-11-13  2:06           ` Thiago Macieira
2022-11-12 18:33       ` Luck, Tony
2022-11-12 19:28         ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-12 23:32           ` Luck, Tony
2022-11-13  2:35             ` Thiago Macieira
2022-11-13  7:37         ` gregkh
2022-11-13 11:48           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-13 15:15             ` Ashok Raj
2022-11-13 15:58               ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-13 17:01                 ` Ashok Raj
2022-11-13 18:41                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-13 21:40                 ` Thiago Macieira
2022-11-13 22:59                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-14 18:13                 ` Dave Hansen
2022-11-14 18:25                   ` Luck, Tony
2022-11-14 19:03                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-14 19:07                     ` Luck, Tony
2022-11-14 19:17                       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-14 19:38                         ` Luck, Tony
2022-11-14 19:51                           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-13 16:41             ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-13 16:58               ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-13 17:55                 ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-13 18:27                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-13 21:33                     ` Tony Luck
2022-11-13 22:55                       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-13 21:21                 ` Thiago Macieira
2022-11-13 22:40                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-13 21:51             ` Thiago Macieira
2022-11-13 23:05               ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-14  8:28                 ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-14  7:15             ` gregkh
2022-11-14 15:33               ` Tony Luck
2022-11-14 15:47                 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-19 16:24     ` [tip: x86/microcode] " tip-bot2 for Jithu Joseph
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 13/14] Documentation/ABI: Update IFS ABI doc Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09 23:55     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10  1:16       ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-10 21:33     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-07 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 14/14] Revert "platform/x86/intel/ifs: Mark as BROKEN" Jithu Joseph
2022-11-09 23:57     ` Sohil Mehta
2022-11-10 21:34     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-10  9:59   ` [PATCH v2 00/14] IFS multi test image support and misc changes Borislav Petkov
2022-11-10 21:37     ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-10 21:58       ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-17  3:59   ` [PATCH v3 00/16] " Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 01/16] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Remove unused selection Jithu Joseph
2022-11-19 16:24       ` [tip: x86/microcode] " tip-bot2 for Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 02/16] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Return a more appropriate Error code Jithu Joseph
2022-11-19 16:24       ` [tip: x86/microcode] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Return a more appropriate error code tip-bot2 for Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 03/16] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Remove image loading during init Jithu Joseph
2022-11-19 16:24       ` [tip: x86/microcode] " tip-bot2 for Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 04/16] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Remove memory allocation from load path Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  8:51       ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-17 17:29         ` Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17 18:01           ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-17 19:59             ` Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17 21:13               ` Hans de Goede
2022-11-17 22:44                 ` Joseph, Jithu
2022-11-19 16:24               ` [tip: x86/microcode] " tip-bot2 for Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 05/16] x86/microcode/intel: Reuse find_matching_signature() Jithu Joseph
2022-11-19 16:24       ` [tip: x86/microcode] " tip-bot2 for Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 06/16] x86/microcode/intel: Use appropriate type in microcode_sanity_check() Jithu Joseph
2022-11-19 16:24       ` [tip: x86/microcode] " tip-bot2 for Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 07/16] x86/microcode/intel: Reuse microcode_sanity_check() Jithu Joseph
2022-11-19 16:24       ` [tip: x86/microcode] " tip-bot2 for Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 08/16] x86/microcode/intel: Add hdr_type to intel_microcode_sanity_check() Jithu Joseph
2022-11-19 16:24       ` [tip: x86/microcode] " tip-bot2 for Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 09/16] x86/microcode/intel: Use a reserved field for metasize Jithu Joseph
2022-11-19 16:24       ` [tip: x86/microcode] " tip-bot2 for Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 10/16] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add metadata support Jithu Joseph
2022-11-19 16:24       ` [tip: x86/microcode] " tip-bot2 for Ashok Raj
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 11/16] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Use generic microcode headers and functions Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17 22:50       ` Jithu Joseph
2022-11-19 16:24         ` [tip: x86/microcode] " tip-bot2 for Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 12/16] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add metadata validation Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17 23:04       ` Jithu Joseph
2022-11-19 16:24         ` [tip: x86/microcode] " tip-bot2 for Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 13/16] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Remove reload sysfs entry Jithu Joseph
2022-11-19 16:24       ` [tip: x86/microcode] " tip-bot2 for Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 14/16] platform/x86/intel/ifs: Add current_batch " Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 15/16] Documentation/ABI: Update IFS ABI doc Jithu Joseph
2022-11-19 16:23       ` [tip: x86/microcode] " tip-bot2 for Jithu Joseph
2022-11-17  3:59     ` [PATCH v3 16/16] Revert "platform/x86/intel/ifs: Mark as BROKEN" Jithu Joseph
2022-11-19 16:23       ` [tip: x86/microcode] " tip-bot2 for Jithu Joseph

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