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From: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Lei Rao <lei.rao@intel.com>,
	axboe@fb.com, kch@nvidia.com, sagi@grimberg.me,
	alex.williamson@redhat.com, cohuck@redhat.com,
	yishaih@nvidia.com, shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com,
	kevin.tian@intel.com, mjrosato@linux.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, eddie.dong@intel.com, yadong.li@intel.com,
	yi.l.liu@intel.com, Konrad.wilk@oracle.com,
	stephen@eideticom.com, hang.yuan@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/5] nvme-pci: add function nvme_submit_vf_cmd to issue admin commands for VF driver.
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 13:51:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y49I5MRsgHdNkIff@kbusch-mbp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y49HKHP9NrId39iH@ziepe.ca>

On Tue, Dec 06, 2022 at 09:44:08AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 06, 2022 at 07:19:40AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 06, 2022 at 01:58:12PM +0800, Lei Rao wrote:
> > > The new function nvme_submit_vf_cmd() helps the host VF driver to issue
> > > VF admin commands. It's helpful in some cases that the host NVMe driver
> > > does not control VF's admin queue. For example, in the virtualization
> > > device pass-through case, the VF controller's admin queue is governed
> > > by the Guest NVMe driver. Host VF driver relies on PF device's admin
> > > queue to control VF devices like vendor-specific live migration commands.
> > 
> > WTF are you even smoking when you think this would be acceptable?
> 
> Not speaking to NVMe - but this driver is clearly copying mlx5's live
> migration driver, almost completely - including this basic function.
> 
> So, to explain why mlx5 works this way..
> 
> The VFIO approach is to fully assign an entire VF to the guest OS. The
> entire VF assignment means every MMIO register *and all the DMA* of
> the VF is owned by the guest operating system.
> 
> mlx5 needs to transfer hundreds of megabytes to gigabytes of in-device
> state to perform a migration.

For storage, though, you can't just transfer the controller state. You have to
transfer all the namespace user data, too. So potentially many terabytes?

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-06 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-06  5:58 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add new VFIO PCI driver for NVMe devices Lei Rao
2022-12-06  5:58 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] nvme-pci: add function nvme_submit_vf_cmd to issue admin commands for VF driver Lei Rao
2022-12-06  6:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-06 13:44     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-06 13:51       ` Keith Busch [this message]
2022-12-06 14:27         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-06 13:58       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-06 15:22         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-06 15:38           ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-06 15:51             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-06 16:55               ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-06 19:15                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-07  2:30                   ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-12-07  7:58                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-09  2:11                       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-12-12  7:41                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-07  7:54                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-07 10:59                     ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-12-07 13:46                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-07 14:50                         ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-12-07 16:35                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-07 13:34                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-07 13:52                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-07 15:07                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-07 16:38                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-07 17:31                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-07 18:33                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-07 20:08                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-09  2:50                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-12-09 18:56                                     ` Dong, Eddie
2022-12-11 11:39                                   ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-12-12  7:55                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-12 14:49                                       ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-12-12  7:50                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-13 14:01                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-13 16:08                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-13 17:49                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-06  5:58 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] nvme-vfio: add new vfio-pci driver for NVMe device Lei Rao
2022-12-06  5:58 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] nvme-vfio: enable the function of VFIO live migration Lei Rao
2023-01-19 10:21   ` Max Gurtovoy
2023-02-09  9:09     ` Rao, Lei
2022-12-06  5:58 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] nvme-vfio: check if the hardware supports " Lei Rao
2022-12-06 13:47   ` Keith Busch
2022-12-06  5:58 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] nvme-vfio: Add a document for the NVMe device Lei Rao
2022-12-06  6:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-06 13:05     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-06 13:09       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-06 13:52         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-06 14:00           ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-06 14:20             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-06 14:31               ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-06 14:48                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-06 15:01                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-06 15:28                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-06 15:35                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-06 18:00                         ` Dong, Eddie
2022-12-12  7:57                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-11 12:05                     ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-12-11 13:21                       ` Rao, Lei
2022-12-11 14:51                         ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-12-12  1:20                           ` Rao, Lei
2022-12-12  8:09                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-09  2:05         ` Tian, Kevin
2022-12-09 16:53           ` Li, Yadong
2022-12-12  8:11             ` Christoph Hellwig

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