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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Richter <tmricht@linux.ibm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 08/12] s390: Replace cmpxchg_double() with cmpxchg128()
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2023 11:27:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y71LoCIl+IFdy9D8@FVFF77S0Q05N> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y70it59wuvsnKJK1@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 09:32:55AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 08:23:05AM +0100, Heiko Carstens wrote:
> 
> > So, Alexander Gordeev reported that this code was already prior to your
> > changes potentially broken with respect to missing READ_ONCE() within the
> > cmpxchg_double() loops.
> 
> Unless there's an early exit, that shouldn't matter. If you managed to
> read garbage the cmpxchg itself will simply fail and the loop retries.

I don't think that's true; without READ_ONCE() the compiler could (but is
very unlikely to) read multiple times, and that could cause problems.

For example:

| 	prev = *ptr;
| 
| 	do {
| 		new = some_function_of(prev);
| 		old = cmpxchg(ptr, prev, new);
| 	} while (old != prev);

Could effectively become:

| 	prev1 = *ptr;
|	prev2 = *ptr;
|
| 	do {
| 		new = some_function_of(prev1)
| 		old = cmpxchg(ptr, prev2, new);
| 	} while (old != prev2);

... which would effectively udpate from a stale value, throwing away prev2.
That and the two generated reads could be in either order.

So I do think it's warranted to use READ_ONCE() for the prev value feeding into
a cmpxchg operation, even if that's only for the "once" part rather than lack
of tearing.

Thanks,
Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-10 11:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-19 15:35 [RFC][PATCH 00/12] Introduce cmpxchg128() -- aka. the demise of cmpxchg_double() Peter Zijlstra
2022-12-19 15:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/12] crypto: Remove u128 usage Peter Zijlstra
2022-12-19 15:56   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-19 17:00     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-12-19 17:03       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-20  3:50         ` Herbert Xu
2022-12-20  4:11           ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-12-20  4:15             ` Herbert Xu
2022-12-19 15:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/12] crypto/ghash-clmulni: Use (struct) be128 Peter Zijlstra
2022-12-20  5:45   ` Eric Biggers
2022-12-19 15:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/12] cyrpto/b128ops: Remove struct u128 Peter Zijlstra
2022-12-20  5:52   ` Eric Biggers
2022-12-19 15:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/12] types: Introduce [us]128 Peter Zijlstra
2022-12-29  8:30   ` Pavel Machek
2022-12-19 15:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/12] arch: Introduce arch_{,try_}_cmpxchg128{,_local}() Peter Zijlstra
2022-12-19 20:07   ` Boqun Feng
2022-12-20 11:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-12-20 14:31       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-12-20 15:09         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-01-03 13:25       ` Mark Rutland
2023-01-03 14:03         ` Mark Rutland
2023-01-03 16:19           ` Mark Rutland
2023-01-03 16:50             ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-04 11:36               ` Mark Rutland
2023-01-04 13:55                 ` Mark Rutland
2022-12-22  1:25   ` Boqun Feng
2022-12-22 13:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-01-03 17:12   ` Heiko Carstens
2023-01-09 18:50   ` Mark Rutland
2023-01-12 10:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-12-19 15:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/12] instrumentation: Wire up cmpxchg128() Peter Zijlstra
2022-12-19 15:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/12] percpu: Wire up cmpxchg128 Peter Zijlstra
2022-12-29 13:36   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-04 12:09   ` Heiko Carstens
2023-01-09 16:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-12-19 15:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/12] s390: Replace cmpxchg_double() with cmpxchg128() Peter Zijlstra
2023-01-10  7:23   ` Heiko Carstens
2023-01-10  8:32     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-01-10 11:27       ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2023-01-10 11:46       ` Heiko Carstens
2023-01-12 11:12         ` Alexander Gordeev
2022-12-19 15:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/12] x86,amd_iommu: Replace cmpxchg_double() Peter Zijlstra
2022-12-19 16:47   ` Niklas Schnelle
2022-12-28  8:40   ` Vasant Hegde
2022-12-19 15:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/12] x86,intel_iommu: " Peter Zijlstra
2022-12-19 15:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/12] slub: " Peter Zijlstra
2023-01-03 15:58   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-01-03 17:16   ` Heiko Carstens
2023-01-03 19:08     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-01-04 12:07       ` Heiko Carstens
2023-01-09 16:28       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-01-09 22:02         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-01-09 22:22           ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-10  2:09             ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-10 10:28           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-12-19 15:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 12/12] arch: Remove cmpxchg_double Peter Zijlstra
2022-12-22  1:21 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/12] Introduce cmpxchg128() -- aka. the demise of cmpxchg_double() Boqun Feng

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