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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] locking/rwbase: Prevent indefinite writer starvation
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 19:34:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y8remhZnLCtr+y5s@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230120093711.3862-1-hdanton@sina.com>

On 2023-01-20 17:37:11 [+0800], Hillf Danton wrote:
> 
> I am fine with either 4ms or 40ms, or a second.
> 
> Given the cure, does it still work when reader bias for RT tasks is allowed?
No.

> If not, why keep starving waiters after they pay the 40ms price?

That kind of starvation will also happen if you have only spinlock_t
locks and you say 3 RT tasks that acquire the lock back to back. And a
few SCHED_OTHER tasks. Those 3 will be always be in front of the queue
(as they skip the line) and the following SCHED_OTHER tasks will starve
and never get the lock.

So it is basically the same scenario.

Sebastian

      parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-20 18:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-17  8:38 [PATCH v2] locking/rwbase: Prevent indefinite writer starvation Mel Gorman
     [not found] ` <20230117105031.2512-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-01-17 12:18   ` Mel Gorman
2023-01-17 14:22 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-01-17 16:50   ` Mel Gorman
2023-01-18 10:45     ` Ingo Molnar
2023-01-18 16:00       ` Mel Gorman
2023-01-18 15:25     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-01-18 17:31       ` Mel Gorman
2023-01-19  8:25         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-01-19 11:02           ` Mel Gorman
2023-01-19 16:28             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-01-19 17:41               ` Mel Gorman
2023-01-19 17:48                 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2023-01-19 17:58                   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2023-01-20  8:25                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-01-20 13:24                   ` Mel Gorman
2023-01-20 13:38                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-01-20 14:07                       ` Mel Gorman
2023-01-20 15:36                     ` Davidlohr Bueso
     [not found]       ` <20230119011538.3247-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-01-19  8:32         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]         ` <20230119135903.3524-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-01-19 16:36           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]           ` <20230120093711.3862-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-01-20 18:34             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]

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