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From: Gregory Price <gregory.price@memverge.com>
To: Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Gregory Price <gourry.memverge@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@collabora.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/2] ptrace,syscall_user_dispatch: Implement Syscall User Dispatch Suspension
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 14:01:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y9LOEN3u/jYqPujS@memverge.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANaxB-xO1fgMGRzk1Ovs2nNx0sU8wJcdpF4jGVv6nj2ErUVEAA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 10:53:49AM -0800, Andrei Vagin wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 10:30 AM Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 01/26, Andrei Vagin wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 7:07 AM Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > IIUC, PTRACE_O_SUSPEND_SYSCALL_USER_DISPATCH is needed to run the injected
> > > > code, and this also needs to change the state of the traced process. If
> > > > the tracer (CRIU) dies while the tracee runs this code, I guess the tracee
> > > > will have other problems?
> > >
> > > Our injected code can reheal itself if something goes wrong. The hack
> > > here is that we inject
> > > the code with a signal frame and it calls rt_segreturn to resume the process.
> >
> > What will happen if CRIU dies and clears ->ptrace right before
> > syscall_user_dispatch() checks PT_SUSPEND_SYSCALL_USER_DISPATCH ?
> >
> > How the tracee will react to SIGSYS with unexpected .si_syscall ?
> 
> I got it. PTRACE_O_SUSPEND_SUD doesn't help us here, because we rely
> on sigreturn
> that is called after ptrace_detach. Thanks.
> 
> >
> > > I don't expect that
> > > the syscall user dispatch
> > > is used by many applications,
> >
> > Agreed, so the case when CRIU will need to do the additional
> > PTRACE_SET_SYSCALL_USER_DISPATCH_CONFIG twice to disable and then re-enable
> > syscall_user_dispatch is unlikely.
> >
> > > so I don't strongly insist on
> > > PTRACE_O_SUSPEND_SYSCALL_USER_DISPATCH.
> >
> > I too won't argue too much. but so far I do not feel there is enough
> > justification for this feature ...
> 
> Agree
> 
> >
> > Oleg.
> >

Seems that's consensus, I will drop it.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-26 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-25  2:51 [PATCH v6 0/2] Gregory Price
2023-01-25  2:51 ` [PATCH v6 1/2] ptrace,syscall_user_dispatch: Implement Syscall User Dispatch Suspension Gregory Price
2023-01-26  0:30   ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-01-26  1:30     ` Gregory Price
2023-01-26  4:43     ` Gregory Price
     [not found]     ` <CANaxB-xn0wW5xA_CT7bA5=jig+td__EDKPBWSpZdfgMgVOezCg@mail.gmail.com>
2023-01-26  5:26       ` Gregory Price
2023-01-26 15:10         ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-01-26 18:09         ` Andrei Vagin
2023-01-26 15:07       ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-01-26 17:45         ` Andrei Vagin
2023-01-26 17:52           ` Gregory Price
2023-01-26 18:30             ` Andrei Vagin
2023-01-26 18:30           ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-01-26 18:46             ` Gregory Price
2023-01-26 18:53             ` Andrei Vagin
2023-01-26 19:01               ` Gregory Price [this message]
2023-01-25  2:51 ` [PATCH v6 2/2] ptrace,syscall_user_dispatch: add a getter/setter for sud configuration Gregory Price
2023-01-25  7:14   ` kernel test robot

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