From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075D4C61D97 for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2023 16:03:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S234837AbjA2QDt (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 Jan 2023 11:03:49 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:33998 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229980AbjA2QDs (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 Jan 2023 11:03:48 -0500 Received: from netrider.rowland.org (netrider.rowland.org [192.131.102.5]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1EB2F19F0C for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2023 08:03:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 374693 invoked by uid 1000); 29 Jan 2023 11:03:46 -0500 Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2023 11:03:46 -0500 From: Alan Stern To: "Paul E. McKenney" Cc: Andrea Parri , Jonas Oberhauser , will@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org, boqun.feng@gmail.com, npiggin@gmail.com, dhowells@redhat.com, j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk, luc.maranget@inria.fr, akiyks@gmail.com, dlustig@nvidia.com, joel@joelfernandes.org, urezki@gmail.com, quic_neeraju@quicinc.com, frederic@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] tools/memory-model: Make ppo a subrelation of po Message-ID: References: <20230126134604.2160-1-jonas.oberhauser@huaweicloud.com> <20230126134604.2160-3-jonas.oberhauser@huaweicloud.com> <47acbaa7-8280-48f2-678f-53762cf3fe9d@huaweicloud.com> <20230129051734.GE2948950@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20230129051734.GE2948950@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 09:17:34PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 05:59:52PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 11:14:17PM +0100, Andrea Parri wrote: > > > > Evidently the plain-coherence check rules out x=1 at the > > > > end, because when I relax that check, x=1 becomes a possible result. > > > > Furthermore, the graphical output confirms that this execution has a > > > > ww-incoh edge from Wx=2 to Wx=1. But there is no ww-vis edge from Wx=1 > > > > to Wx=2! How can this be possible? It seems like a bug in herd7. > > > > > > By default, herd7 performs some edges removal when generating the > > > graphical outputs. The option -showraw can be useful to increase > > > the "verbosity", for example, > > > > > > [with "exists (x=2)", output in /tmp/T.dot] > > > $ herd7 -conf linux-kernel.cfg T.litmus -show prop -o /tmp -skipchecks plain-coherence -doshow ww-vis -showraw ww-vis > > > > Okay, thanks, that helps a lot. > > > > So here's what we've got. The litmus test: > > > > > > C hb-and-int > > {} > > > > P0(int *x, int *y) > > { > > *x = 1; > > smp_store_release(y, 1); > > } > > > > P1(int *x, int *y, int *dx, int *dy, spinlock_t *l) > > { > > spin_lock(l); > > int r1 = READ_ONCE(*dy); > > if (r1==1) > > spin_unlock(l); > > > > int r0 = smp_load_acquire(y); > > if (r0 == 1) { > > WRITE_ONCE(*dx,1); > > } > > The lack of a spin_unlock() when r1!=1 is intentional? I assume so. > It is admittedly a cute way to prevent P3 from doing anything > when r1!=1. And P1 won't do anything if P3 runs first. Right. > > } > > > > P2(int *dx, int *dy) > > { > > WRITE_ONCE(*dy,READ_ONCE(*dx)); > > } > > > > > > P3(int *x, spinlock_t *l) > > { > > spin_lock(l); > > smp_mb__after_unlock_lock(); > > *x = 2; > > } > > > > exists (x=2) > > > > > > The reason why Wx=1 ->ww-vis Wx=2: > > > > 0:Wx=1 ->po-rel 0:Wy=1 and po-rel < fence < ww-post-bounded. > > > > 0:Wy=1 ->rfe 1:Ry=1 ->(hb* & int) 1:Rdy=1 and > > (rfe ; hb* & int) <= (rfe ; xbstar & int) <= vis. > > > > 1:Rdy=1 ->po 1:unlock ->rfe 3:lock ->po 3:Wx=2 > > so 1:Rdy=1 ->po-unlock-lock-po 3:Wx=2 > > and po-unlock-lock-po <= mb <= fence <= w-pre-bounded. > > > > Finally, w-post-bounded ; vis ; w-pre-bounded <= ww-vis. > > > > This explains why the memory model says there isn't a data race. This > > doesn't use the smp_mb__after_unlock_lock at all. > > You lost me on this one. > > Suppose that P3 starts first, then P0. P1 is then stuck at the > spin_lock() because P3 does not release that lock. P2 goes out for a > pizza. That wouldn't be a valid execution. One of the rules in lock.cat says that a spin_lock() call must read from a spin_unlock() or from an initial write, which rules out executions in which P3 acquires the lock first. > Why can't the two stores to x by P0 and P3 conflict, resulting in a > data race? That can't happen in executions where P1 acquires the lock first for the reason outlined above (P0's store to x propagates to P3 before P3 writes to x). And there are no other executions -- basically, herd7 ignores deadlock scenarios. Alan