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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Possible deny of service with memfd_create()
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2021 11:50:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YB0i3a6fIhWG7zCP@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <762ad377-ac21-6d8d-d792-492ba7f6c000@amd.com>

On Fri 05-02-21 08:54:31, Christian König wrote:
> Am 05.02.21 um 01:32 schrieb Hugh Dickins:
> > On Thu, 4 Feb 2021, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Thu 04-02-21 17:32:20, Christian Koenig wrote:
> > > > Hi Michal,
> > > > 
> > > > as requested in the other mail thread the following sample code gets my test
> > > > system down within seconds.
> > > > 
> > > > The issue is that the memory allocated for the file descriptor is not
> > > > accounted to the process allocating it, so the OOM killer pics whatever
> > > > process it things is good but never my small test program.
> > > > 
> > > > Since memfd_create() doesn't need any special permission this is a rather
> > > > nice deny of service and as far as I can see also works with a standard
> > > > Ubuntu 5.4.0-65-generic kernel.
> > > Thanks for following up. This is really nasty but now that I am looking
> > > at it more closely, this is not really different from tmpfs in general.
> > > You are free to create files and eat the memory without being accounted
> > > for that memory because that is not seen as your memory from the sysstem
> > > POV. You would have to map that memory to be part of your rss.
> 
> I mostly agree. The big difference is that tmpfs is only available when
> mounted.
>
> And tmpfs can be restricted in size per mount point as well as per user
> quotas IIRC. Looking at my desktop system those restrictions are actually
> exactly what I see there.

I cannot find anything about per user quotas for tmpfs in the tmpfs man
page. Or maybe I am looking at a wrong layer and there is a generic
handling somewhere in the vfs core?

> But memfd_create() is just free for all, you don't have any size limit nor
> access restriction as far as I can see.

Yes, this is unfortunate and a design decision that should have been
considered when the syscall has been introduced. But this boat has
sailed looong ago to change that without risking a userspace breakage.

> > > The only existing protection right now is to use memoery cgroup
> > > controller because the tmpfs memory is accounted to the process which
> > > faults the memory in (or write to the file).
> 
> Agreed, but having to rely on cgroup is not really satisfying when you have
> to maintain a hardened server.

Yes I do recognize the pain. The only other way to mitigate the risk is
to disallow the syscall to untrusted users in a hardened environment.
You should be very strict in tmpfs usage there already.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-05 10:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-04 16:32 Possible deny of service with memfd_create() Christian König
2021-02-04 17:12 ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-05  0:32   ` Hugh Dickins
2021-02-05  7:54     ` Christian König
2021-02-05 10:50       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2021-02-05 10:57         ` Christian König
2021-02-05 12:26           ` Michal Hocko

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