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From: Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Loic Poulain <loic.poulain@linaro.org>,
	Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jeffrey Hugo <jhugo@codeaurora.org>,
	Bhaumik Bhatt <bbhatt@codeaurora.org>,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH v18 0/3] userspace MHI client interface driver
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 23:53:33 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YBuL3bdxFmRwLtdo@builder.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210203104028.62d41962@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com>

On Wed 03 Feb 12:40 CST 2021, Jakub Kicinski wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 19:28:28 +0100 Loic Poulain wrote:
> > On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 at 19:05, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 03 Feb 2021 09:45:06 +0530 Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:  
> > > > The current patchset only supports QMI channel so I'd request you to
> > > > review the chardev node created for it. The QMI chardev node created
> > > > will be unique for the MHI bus and the number of nodes depends on the
> > > > MHI controllers in the system (typically 1 but not limited).  
> > >
> > > If you want to add a MHI QMI driver, please write a QMI-only driver.
> > > This generic "userspace client interface" driver is a no go. Nobody will
> > > have the time and attention to police what you throw in there later.  
> > 
> > Think it should be seen as filtered userspace access to MHI bus
> > (filtered because not all channels are exposed), again it's not
> > specific to MHI, any bus in Linux offers that (i2c, spi, usb, serial,
> > etc...). It will not be specific to QMI, since we will also need it
> > for MBIM (modem control path), AT commands, and GPS (NMEA frames), all
> > these protocols are usually handled by userspace tools and not linked
> > to any internal Linux framework, so it would be better not having a
> > dedicated chardev for each of them.
> 
> The more people argue for this backdoor interface the more distrustful
> of it we'll become. Keep going at your own peril.

With things such as USBDEVFS, UIO, spi-dev and i2c-dev already exposing
various forms of hardware directly to userspace in an identical fashion,
can you please explain why you believe this would be inappropriate for
MHI devices?

Thanks,
Bjorn

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-02-04  5:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-06 18:44 [RESEND PATCH v18 0/3] userspace MHI client interface driver Hemant Kumar
2021-01-06 18:44 ` [RESEND PATCH v18 1/3] bus: mhi: core: Move MHI_MAX_MTU to external header file Hemant Kumar
2021-01-06 18:44 ` [RESEND PATCH v18 2/3] docs: Add documentation for userspace client interface Hemant Kumar
2021-01-06 18:44 ` [RESEND PATCH v18 3/3] bus: mhi: Add userspace client interface driver Hemant Kumar
2021-01-13 15:26 ` [RESEND PATCH v18 0/3] userspace MHI " Manivannan Sadhasivam
2021-01-19  9:42   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2021-01-19 10:28     ` Greg KH
2021-01-27 15:15   ` Greg KH
2021-01-27 16:24     ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-02-01 10:55     ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2021-02-01 11:15       ` Greg KH
2021-02-01 12:13         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2021-02-02  4:22           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2021-02-03  4:10             ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-02-03  4:15               ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2021-02-03 18:05                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-02-03 18:28                   ` Loic Poulain
2021-02-03 18:40                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-02-04  4:07                       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2021-02-04  5:53                       ` Bjorn Andersson [this message]
2021-02-09  9:20                       ` Aleksander Morgado
2021-02-09 16:17                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-02-09 16:49                           ` Aleksander Morgado
2021-02-10  6:25                           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2021-02-10 18:41                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-02-10 19:18                               ` Jeffrey Hugo
2021-02-10 22:08                               ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-02-11  9:26                               ` Aleksander Morgado
2021-02-28 14:12                             ` Aleksander Morgado
2021-02-28 15:52                               ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2021-02-03 18:34                   ` Bjorn Andersson

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