From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
joaodias@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: be more verbose for alloc_contig_range faliures
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 08:47:28 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YC6aIL67PaYlmeYq@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dc534e7b-3992-eb37-8399-67258ff03067@redhat.com>
On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 05:26:08PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 18.02.21 17:19, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 10:43:21AM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > On 18.02.21 10:35, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > On Thu 18-02-21 10:02:43, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > > > On 18.02.21 09:56, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed 17-02-21 08:36:03, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > > > > > > alloc_contig_range is usually used on cma area or movable zone.
> > > > > > > It's critical if the page migration fails on those areas so
> > > > > > > dump more debugging message like memory_hotplug unless user
> > > > > > > specifiy __GFP_NOWARN.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I agree with David that this has a potential to generate a lot of output
> > > > > > and it is not really clear whether it is worth it. Page isolation code
> > > > > > already has REPORT_FAILURE mode which currently used only for the memory
> > > > > > hotplug because this was just too noisy from the CMA path - d381c54760dc
> > > > > > ("mm: only report isolation failures when offlining memory").
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe migration failures are less likely to fail but still.
> > > > >
> > > > > Side note: I really dislike that uncontrolled error reporting on memory
> > > > > offlining path we have enabled as default. Yeah, it might be useful for
> > > > > ZONE_MOVABLE in some cases, but otherwise it's just noise.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just do a "sudo stress-ng --memhotplug 1" and see the log getting flooded
> > > >
> > > > Anyway we can discuss this in a separate thread but I think this is not
> > > > a representative workload.
> > >
> > > Sure, but the essence is "this is noise", and we'll have more noise on
> > > alloc_contig_range() as we see these calls more frequently. There should be
> > > an explicit way to enable such *debug* messages.
> >
> > alloc_contig_range already has gfp_mask and it respects __GFP_NOWARN.
>
> I am not 100% sure it does.
Oh, it should. Otherwise, let's fix either of caller or
alloc_contig_range since we have a customer.
```
ret = alloc_contig_range(pfn, pfn + count, MIGRATE_CMA,
GFP_KERNEL | (no_warn ? __GFP_NOWARN : 0))
```
>
> > Why shouldn't people use it if they don't care the failure?
>
> Because flooding the log with noise maybe a handful of people on this planet
> care about is absolutely useless. With the warnings in warn_alloc() people
> can at least conclude something reasonable.
>
> > Semantically, it makes sense to me.
> >
> > About the messeage flooding, shouldn't we go with ratelimiting?
>
> At least that (see warn_alloc()). But I'd even want to see some other
> trigger to enable this explicitly on demand.
No objection.
How about adding verbose knob under CONFIG_CMA_DEBUGFS with
alloc_contig_range(..., bool verbose) like start_isolate_page_range?
If admin turns on the verbose mode under CONFIG_CMA_DEBUGFS,
cma_alloc will pass alloc_contig_range(...., true).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-18 18:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-02-17 16:36 [PATCH] mm: be more verbose for alloc_contig_range faliures Minchan Kim
2021-02-17 16:51 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-17 17:26 ` Minchan Kim
2021-02-17 17:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-17 17:45 ` Minchan Kim
2021-02-18 8:56 ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-18 9:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-18 9:35 ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-18 9:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-18 9:59 ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-18 16:19 ` Minchan Kim
2021-02-18 16:26 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-18 16:47 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2021-02-18 16:53 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-19 9:28 ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-19 9:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-19 10:02 ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-19 10:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-02 17:23 ` Minchan Kim
2021-03-04 16:01 ` Minchan Kim
2021-03-04 16:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-04 16:23 ` Minchan Kim
2021-03-04 16:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-04 17:11 ` Minchan Kim
2021-03-04 17:23 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-04 18:11 ` Minchan Kim
2021-03-04 18:22 ` Minchan Kim
2021-03-08 12:49 ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-08 13:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-08 14:11 ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-08 14:13 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-08 15:42 ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-08 15:58 ` Minchan Kim
2021-03-08 16:21 ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-08 17:01 ` Minchan Kim
2021-03-08 20:27 ` Minchan Kim
2021-02-18 16:10 ` Minchan Kim
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