From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E97C433E6 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 19:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3027564E38 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 19:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S232029AbhBRT1J (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Feb 2021 14:27:09 -0500 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:41078 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230187AbhBRShU (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Feb 2021 13:37:20 -0500 Received: by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 61F3364EB3; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 18:36:29 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1613673390; bh=cx/G9CiNCVf5iqa5R0DmzapVS1vER9219WbO5MMjo7o=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=t7WH7zn6oIgUXC5no7v4N1XikNFP1r1AY/X/DXCM5iEC6fI81qvm8wLU+1Xk4rkmd TSARXU+U8k45wk/pz3hxN4HtC+f6ULD6ZRDrenRvGvunDSlhpX9/N3Xebyg/YEprhr lrqaxU8nEeFhHdbVOmA1fJUaNX02wty+DN/S05GY= Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 19:36:27 +0100 From: Greg Kroah-Hartman To: Willy Tarreau Cc: Florian Fainelli , Sasha Levin , BCM Kernel Feedback , LKML , Linux ARM , Scott Branden Subject: Re: 5.10 LTS Kernel: 2 or 6 years? Message-ID: References: <8cf503db-ac4c-a546-13c0-aac6da5c073b@broadcom.com> <20210218165104.GC2013@sasha-vm> <00b9e2fb-d818-58d6-edae-4dbd6aa814f7@gmail.com> <20210218182050.GB15217@1wt.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210218182050.GB15217@1wt.eu> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 07:20:50PM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote: > On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 06:53:56PM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 09:21:13AM -0800, Florian Fainelli wrote: > > > As a company, we are most likely shooting ourselves in the foot by not > > > having a point of coordination with the Linux Foundation and key people > > > like you, Greg and other participants in the stable kernel. > > > > What does the LF have to do with this? > > > > We are here, on the mailing lists, working with everyone. Just test the > > -rc releases we make and let us know if they work or not for you, it's > > not a lot of "coordination" needed at all. > > > > Otherwise, if no one is saying that they are going to need these for 6 > > years and are willing to use it in their project (i.e. and test it), > > there's no need for us to maintain it for that long, right? > > Greg, please remember I expressed I really need them for slightly more than > 3 years (say 3.5-4) :-) I'm fine with helping a bit more as time permits if > this saves me from having to take over these kernels after you, like in the > past, but I cannot engage on the regularity of my availability. Ok, great! That's one person/company saying they can help out (along with what CIP has been stating.) What about others? Broadcom started this conversation, odd that they don't seem to want to help out :) thanks, greg k-h