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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>
Cc: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [PATCH v2] mm: memcontrol: fix kernel stack account
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 15:02:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YD+XB6LVUhwL6qm+@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMZfGtVdU9KWD8U_0CbctMpYo5SbzJEW2pSa1Qdr9tFcwaWcoQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed 03-03-21 21:27:24, Muchun Song wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 6:25 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed 03-03-21 17:39:56, Muchun Song wrote:
> > > For simplification 991e7673859e ("mm: memcontrol: account kernel stack
> > > per node") has changed the per zone vmalloc backed stack pages
> > > accounting to per node. By doing that we have lost a certain precision
> > > because those pages might live in different NUMA nodes. In the end
> > > NR_KERNEL_STACK_KB exported to the userspace might be over estimated on
> > > some nodes while underestimated on others.
> > >
> > > This doesn't impose any real problem to correctnes of the kernel
> > > behavior as the counter is not used for any internal processing but it
> > > can cause some confusion to the userspace.
> >
> > You have skipped over one part of the changelog I have proposed and that
> > is to provide an actual data.
> 
> Because this is a problem I found by looking at the code, not a real world
> problem. I do not have any actual data. :-(

As I've mentioned several times already, this is all fine but it should
be made explicit in the changelog. There might be people spending their
time to evaluate this code to find out whether this is something that
somebody depend on.

[...]
> > > -     /* All stack pages are in the same node. */
> > > -     if (vm)
> > > -             mod_lruvec_page_state(vm->pages[0], NR_KERNEL_STACK_KB,
> > > -                                   account * (THREAD_SIZE / 1024));
> > > -     else
> > > +             BUG_ON(vm->nr_pages != THREAD_SIZE / PAGE_SIZE);
> >
> > I do not think we need this BUG_ON. What kind of purpose does it serve?
> 
> vm->nr_pages should be always equal to THREAD_SIZE / PAGE_SIZE
> if the system is not corrupted.

BUG_ON is not an annotation for "this shouldn't happen". Even if the
system was corrupted and nr_pages wouldn't match then this is not a
reason to crash the kernel right away.

In general there should be a very _strong_ reason to add a BUG_ON.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-03 18:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-03  9:39 [PATCH v2] mm: memcontrol: fix kernel stack account Muchun Song
2021-03-03 10:25 ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-03 13:27   ` [External] " Muchun Song
2021-03-03 14:02     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2021-03-03 14:42       ` Shakeel Butt
2021-03-03 15:14 ` Johannes Weiner

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