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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Pavel Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/5] mm,memory_hotplug: Allocate memmap from the added memory range
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 16:31:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YF3+OWstWA9LIX95@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0e735ea7-b3d9-615e-6bba-fa3a16883226@redhat.com>

On Fri 26-03-21 15:53:41, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 26.03.21 15:38, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Fri 26-03-21 09:52:58, David Hildenbrand wrote:
[...]
> > > 2. We won't allocate kasan shadow memory. We most probably have to do it
> > > explicitly via kasan_add_zero_shadow()/kasan_remove_zero_shadow(), see
> > > mm/memremap.c:pagemap_range()
> > 
> > I think this is similar to the above. Does kasan has to know about
> > memory which will never be used for anything?
> 
> IIRC, kasan will track read/writes to the vmemmap as well. So it could
> theoretically detect if we read from the vmemmap before writing
> (initializing) it IIUC.
> This is also why mm/memremap.c does a kasan_add_zero_shadow() before the
> move_pfn_range_to_zone()->memmap_init_range() for the whole region,
> including altmap space.
> 
> Now, I am no expert on KASAN, what would happen in case we have access to
> non-tracked memory.
> 
> commit 0207df4fa1a869281ddbf72db6203dbf036b3e1a
> Author: Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>
> Date:   Fri Aug 17 15:47:04 2018 -0700
> 
>     kernel/memremap, kasan: make ZONE_DEVICE with work with KASAN
> 
> indicates that kasan will crash the system on "non-existent shadow memory"

Interesting. Thanks for the pointer.

> > > Further a locking rework might be necessary. We hold the device hotplug
> > > lock, but not the memory hotplug lock. E.g., for get_online_mems(). Might
> > > have to move that out online_pages.
> > 
> > Could you be more explicit why this locking is needed? What it would
> > protect from for vmemmap pages?
> > 
> 
> One example is in mm/kmemleak.c:kmemleak_scan(), where we scan the vmemmap
> for pointers. We don't want the vmemmap to get unmapped while we are working
> on it (-> fault).
 
Hmm, but they are not going away during offline. They just have a less
defined state. Or what exactly do you mean by unmapped?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-26 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-19  9:26 [PATCH v5 0/5] Allocate memmap from hotadded memory (per device) Oscar Salvador
2021-03-19  9:26 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] mm,memory_hotplug: Allocate memmap from the added memory range Oscar Salvador
2021-03-19 10:20   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-19 10:31     ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-19 12:04       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-23 10:11   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24 10:12     ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-24 12:03       ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24 12:10         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24 12:23           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-24 12:37             ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24 13:13               ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-24 13:40                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24 14:05                   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-24 13:27         ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-24 14:42         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24 14:52           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-24 16:04             ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24 19:16               ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25  8:07                 ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-25  9:17                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 10:55                     ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-25 11:08                       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 11:23                         ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-25 12:35                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 12:40                           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 14:08                             ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 14:09                               ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 14:34                                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 14:46                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 15:12                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 15:19                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 15:35                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 15:40                                           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 16:07                                           ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 16:20                                             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 16:36                                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 16:47                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 16:55                                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 22:06                                                   ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-26  8:35                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-26  8:52                                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-26  8:57                                                         ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-26 12:15                                                           ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-26 13:36                                                             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-26 14:38                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-26 14:53                                                           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-26 15:31                                                             ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2021-03-26 16:03                                                               ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-26  8:55                                                       ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-26  9:11                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 18:08                                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 12:26                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 14:02                         ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-25 14:40                           ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-19  9:26 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] acpi,memhotplug: Enable MHP_MEMMAP_ON_MEMORY when supported Oscar Salvador
2021-03-23 10:40   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-19  9:26 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] mm,memory_hotplug: Add kernel boot option to enable memmap_on_memory Oscar Salvador
2021-03-23 10:47   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-24  8:45     ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-24  9:02       ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-19  9:26 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] x86/Kconfig: Introduce ARCH_MHP_MEMMAP_ON_MEMORY_ENABLE Oscar Salvador
2021-03-19  9:26 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] arm64/Kconfig: " Oscar Salvador

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