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From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
To: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: "Jin, Yao" <yao.jin@linux.intel.com>,
	jolsa@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com, Linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ak@linux.intel.com, kan.liang@intel.com, yao.jin@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 11/27] perf parse-events: Support hardware events inside PMU
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 10:21:53 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YFNT8YpR7bnCjmdf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YFNEpRILOTwh3svv@krava>

Em Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 01:16:37PM +0100, Jiri Olsa escreveu:
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 10:42:45AM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > Em Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 08:17:52PM +0800, Jin, Yao escreveu:
> > > I'm OK to only support 'cpu_core/cpu-cycles/' or 'cpu_atom/cpu-cycles/'. But
> > > what would we do for cache event?

> > > 'perf stat -e LLC-loads' is OK, but 'perf stat -e cpu/LLC-loads/' is not supported currently.

> > > For hybrid platform, user may only want to enable the LLC-loads on core CPUs
> > > or on atom CPUs. That's reasonable. While if we don't support the pmu style
> > > event, how to satisfy this requirement?

> > > If we can support the pmu style event, we can also use the same way for
> > > cpu_core/cycles/. At least it's not a bad thing, right? :)

> > While we're discussing, do we really want to use the "core" and "atom"
> > terms here? I thought cpu/cycles/ would be ok for the main (Big) CPU and
> > that we should come up with some short name for the "litle" CPUs.

> > Won't we have the same situation with ARM where we want to know the
> > number of cycles spent on a BIG core and also on a little one?

> > Perhaps 'cycles' should mean all cycles, and then we use 'big/cycles/' and
> > 'little/cycles/'?

> do arm servers already export multiple pmus like this?
> I did not notice

I haven't checked, but AFAIK this BIG/Little kind of arch started there,
Mark?

- Arnaldo
 
> it'd be definitely great to have some unite way for this,
> so far we have the hybrid pmu detection and support in
> hw events like cycles/instructions.. which should be easy
> to follow on arm
> 
> there's also support to have these events on specific pmu
> pmu/cycles/ , which I still need to check on

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-18 13:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-11  7:07 [PATCH v2 00/27] perf tool: AlderLake hybrid support series 1 Jin Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 01/27] tools headers uapi: Update tools's copy of linux/perf_event.h Jin Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 02/27] perf jevents: Support unit value "cpu_core" and "cpu_atom" Jin Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 03/27] perf pmu: Simplify arguments of __perf_pmu__new_alias Jin Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 04/27] perf pmu: Save pmu name Jin Yao
2021-03-15 23:03   ` Jiri Olsa
2021-03-16  0:59     ` Jin, Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 05/27] perf pmu: Save detected hybrid pmus to a global pmu list Jin Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 06/27] perf pmu: Add hybrid helper functions Jin Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 07/27] perf evlist: Hybrid event uses its own cpus Jin Yao
2021-03-12 19:15   ` Jiri Olsa
2021-03-15  1:25     ` Jin, Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 08/27] perf stat: Uniquify hybrid event name Jin Yao
2021-03-15 23:04   ` Jiri Olsa
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 09/27] perf parse-events: Create two hybrid hardware events Jin Yao
2021-03-12 19:15   ` Jiri Olsa
2021-03-15  2:04     ` Jin, Yao
2021-03-15 17:34       ` Jiri Olsa
2021-03-15 23:05   ` Jiri Olsa
2021-03-16  3:13     ` Jin, Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 10/27] perf parse-events: Create two hybrid cache events Jin Yao
2021-03-15 23:05   ` Jiri Olsa
2021-03-16  3:51     ` Jin, Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 11/27] perf parse-events: Support hardware events inside PMU Jin Yao
2021-03-12 19:15   ` Jiri Olsa
2021-03-15  2:28     ` Jin, Yao
2021-03-15 17:37       ` Jiri Olsa
2021-03-16  1:49         ` Jin, Yao
2021-03-16 14:04           ` Jiri Olsa
2021-03-17  2:12             ` Jin, Yao
2021-03-17 10:06               ` Jiri Olsa
2021-03-17 12:17                 ` Jin, Yao
2021-03-17 13:42                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-03-18 12:16                     ` Jiri Olsa
2021-03-18 13:21                       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2021-03-18 18:16                         ` Liang, Kan
2021-03-19  2:48                     ` Andi Kleen
2021-03-18 11:51                   ` Jiri Olsa
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 12/27] perf parse-events: Support hybrid raw events Jin Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 13/27] perf evlist: Create two hybrid 'cycles' events by default Jin Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 14/27] perf stat: Add default hybrid events Jin Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 15/27] perf stat: Filter out unmatched aggregation for hybrid event Jin Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 16/27] perf evlist: Warn as events from different hybrid PMUs in a group Jin Yao
2021-03-15 23:03   ` Jiri Olsa
2021-03-16  5:25     ` Jin, Yao
2021-03-18 11:52       ` Jiri Olsa
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 17/27] perf evsel: Adjust hybrid event and global event mixed group Jin Yao
2021-03-15 23:04   ` Jiri Olsa
2021-03-16  4:39     ` Jin, Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 18/27] perf script: Support PERF_TYPE_HARDWARE_PMU and PERF_TYPE_HW_CACHE_PMU Jin Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 19/27] perf tests: Add hybrid cases for 'Parse event definition strings' test Jin Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 20/27] perf tests: Add hybrid cases for 'Roundtrip evsel->name' test Jin Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 21/27] perf tests: Skip 'Setup struct perf_event_attr' test for hybrid Jin Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 22/27] perf tests: Support 'Track with sched_switch' " Jin Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 23/27] perf tests: Support 'Parse and process metrics' " Jin Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 24/27] perf tests: Support 'Session topology' " Jin Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 25/27] perf tests: Support 'Convert perf time to TSC' " Jin Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 26/27] perf tests: Skip 'perf stat metrics (shadow stat) test' " Jin Yao
2021-03-11  7:07 ` [PATCH v2 27/27] perf Documentation: Document intel-hybrid support Jin Yao

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