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From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Hao Luo" <haoluo@google.com>,
	"Hyser,Chris" <chris.hyser@oracle.com>,
	"Josh Don" <joshdon@google.com>, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Vincent Guittot" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"Valentin Schneider" <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
	"Mel Gorman" <mgorman@suse.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Glexiner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Christian Brauner" <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	"Zefan Li" <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] sched: Core scheduling interfaces
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 21:35:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YHuMy0o7gRd+kIVN@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YGxtLOxCb4LO8kN0@slm.duckdns.org>

On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 10:16:12AM -0400, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 02:46:09PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > Yeah, its at http://lore.kernel.org/r/20200822030155.GA414063@google.com
> > as mentioned above, let me know if you need any more details about
> > usecase.
> 
> Except for the unspecified reason in usecase 4, I don't see why cgroup is in
> the picture at all. This doesn't really have much to do with hierarchical
> resource distribution. Besides, yes, you can use cgroup for logical
> structuring and identificaiton purposes but in those cases the interactions
> and interface should be with the original subsystem while using cgroup IDs
> or paths as parameters - see tracing and bpf for examples.

Personally for ChromeOS, we need only the per-task interface. Considering
that the second argument of this prctl is a command, I don't see why we
cannot add a new command PR_SCHED_CORE_CGROUP_SHARE to do what Tejun is
saying (in the future).

In order to not block ChromeOS and other "per-task interface" usecases, I
suggest we keep the CGroup interface for a later time (whether that's
through prctl or the CGroups FS way which Tejun dislikes) and move forward
with per-task interface only initially.

Peter, any thoughts on this?

thanks,

- Joel

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-18  1:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-01 13:10 Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-01 13:10 ` [PATCH 1/9] sched: Allow sched_core_put() from atomic context Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-01 13:10 ` [PATCH 2/9] sched: Implement core-sched assertions Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-01 13:10 ` [PATCH 3/9] sched: Trivial core scheduling cookie management Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-01 20:04   ` Josh Don
2021-04-02  7:13     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-01 13:10 ` [PATCH 4/9] sched: Default core-sched policy Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-21 13:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-21 14:31     ` Chris Hyser
2021-04-01 13:10 ` [PATCH 5/9] sched: prctl() core-scheduling interface Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-07 17:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-18  3:52     ` Joel Fernandes
2021-04-01 13:10 ` [PATCH 6/9] kselftest: Add test for core sched prctl interface Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-01 13:10 ` [PATCH 7/9] sched: Cgroup core-scheduling interface Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-02  0:34   ` Josh Don
2021-04-01 13:10 ` [PATCH 8/9] rbtree: Remove const from the rb_find_add() comparator Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-01 13:10 ` [PATCH 9/9] sched: prctl() and cgroup interaction Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-03  1:30   ` Josh Don
2021-04-06 15:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-04 23:39 ` [PATCH 0/9] sched: Core scheduling interfaces Tejun Heo
2021-04-05 18:46   ` Joel Fernandes
2021-04-06 14:16     ` Tejun Heo
2021-04-18  1:35       ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2021-04-19  9:00         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-21 13:35           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-21 14:45             ` Chris Hyser
2021-04-06 15:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-06 16:08     ` Tejun Heo
2021-04-07 18:39       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-07 16:50   ` Michal Koutný
2021-04-07 18:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-08 13:25       ` Michal Koutný
2021-04-08 15:02         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-09  0:16           ` Josh Don
2021-04-19 11:30       ` Tejun Heo
2021-04-20  1:17         ` Josh Don

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