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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: "Bae, Chang Seok" <chang.seok.bae@intel.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	"Williams, Dan J" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"Shankar, Ravi V" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
	Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 10/11] crypto: x86/aes-kl - Support AES algorithm using Key Locker instructions
Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 16:33:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YKL9MPWRFM8+pm3m@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ED9DFB96-B15E-493F-9089-4B69F5456532@intel.com>

On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 10:20:44PM +0000, Bae, Chang Seok wrote:
> On May 17, 2021, at 14:34, Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 01:15:07PM -0700, Chang S. Bae wrote:
> >> Included are methods for ECB, CBC, CTR, and XTS modes. They are not
> >> compatible with other implementations as referencing an encrypted form
> >> only.
> > 
> > Your code uses the standard algorithm names like cbc(aes), which implies that it
> > is compatible with the standard cbc(aes).  So which is it -- compatible or not
> > compatible -- and if it isn't compatible, what is the expected use case?
> 
> Yes, it provides AES-CBC functionality. Well, it was intended to avoid mixed
> use of functions -- setkey(), decrypt(), and encrypt() -- from others.
> Perhaps, rewrite this as:
> 
>   Each method should not be used along with other implementations'. E.g., KL’s
>   setkey() output can’t be used to the input to the encrypt() method of AES-NI or
>   generic implementation.
> 

Sure.  But that is just the implementation, so not really as interesting as what
the user sees.  I think you need to do a better job explaining what this looks
like from a user's perspective.  It sounds like the answer is "it looks the
same" -- right?  What is the benefit, exactly?  (Please be more specific than
"it protects the AES keys".)

- Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-17 23:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-14 20:14 [RFC PATCH v2 00/11] x86: Support Intel Key Locker Chang S. Bae
2021-05-14 20:14 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/11] x86/cpufeature: Enumerate Key Locker feature Chang S. Bae
2021-05-14 20:14 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/11] x86/insn: Add Key Locker instructions to the opcode map Chang S. Bae
2021-05-14 20:15 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/11] x86/cpu: Load Key Locker internal key at boot-time Chang S. Bae
2021-05-14 20:15 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/11] x86/msr-index: Add MSRs for Key Locker internal key Chang S. Bae
2021-05-14 20:15 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/11] x86/power: Restore Key Locker internal key from the ACPI S3/4 sleep states Chang S. Bae
2021-05-24 14:21   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-05-14 20:15 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/11] x86/cpu: Add a config option and a chicken bit for Key Locker Chang S. Bae
2021-05-14 20:15 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/11] selftests/x86: Test Key Locker internal key maintenance Chang S. Bae
2021-05-14 20:15 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/11] crypto: x86/aes-ni - Improve error handling Chang S. Bae
2021-05-14 20:15 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/11] crypto: x86/aes-ni - Refactor to prepare a new AES implementation Chang S. Bae
2021-05-14 20:15 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/11] crypto: x86/aes-kl - Support AES algorithm using Key Locker instructions Chang S. Bae
2021-05-17 21:34   ` Eric Biggers
2021-05-17 22:20     ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-05-17 23:33       ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2021-05-18 16:57   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-14 20:15 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/11] x86/cpu: Support the hardware randomization option for Key Locker internal key Chang S. Bae
2021-05-15 18:01 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/11] x86: Support Intel Key Locker Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-17 18:21   ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-05-17 18:45     ` Dan Williams
2021-05-17 22:20       ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-05-17 20:15     ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-18 17:10     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-18 17:52       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-19 23:26         ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-19 23:34           ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-20  0:00             ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-06 21:48       ` Bae, Chang Seok

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