From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2588DC07E9E for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2021 17:53:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF122616EB for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2021 17:53:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229815AbhGHRzv (ORCPT ); Thu, 8 Jul 2021 13:55:51 -0400 Received: from protestant.ebb.org ([50.56.179.12]:37644 "EHLO protestant.ebb.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229469AbhGHRzu (ORCPT ); Thu, 8 Jul 2021 13:55:50 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [216.161.86.19]) (Authenticated sender: bkuhn) by protestant.ebb.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9DD828208F; Thu, 8 Jul 2021 10:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 10:52:54 -0700 From: "Bradley M. Kuhn" To: Greg KH Cc: Luis Chamberlain , tglx@linutronix.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org, shuah@kernel.org, rafael@kernel.org, rgoldwyn@suse.com, kuno@frob.nl, fontana@sharpeleven.org, Ciaran.Farrell@suse.com, Christopher.DeNicolo@suse.com, hch@lst.de, corbet@lwn.net, linux@leemhuis.info, ast@kernel.org, andriin@fb.com, daniel@iogearbox.net, atenart@kernel.org, alobakin@pm.me, weiwan@google.com, ap420073@gmail.com, tj@kernel.org, jeyu@kernel.org, ngupta@vflare.org, sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com, minchan@kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk, mbenes@suse.com, jpoimboe@redhat.com, keescook@chromium.org, jikos@kernel.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, peterz@infradead.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-spdx@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, copyleft-next@lists.fedorahosted.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] LICENSES: add and use copyleft-next-0.3.1 Message-ID: References: <20210707184310.3624761-1-mcgrof@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Greg KH wrote: > Let's keep it simple please, and not add new licenses for no real good > reason if at all possible. I've stated a number of real good reasons to keep copyleft-next as a dual-licensing option; they seem to have not been refuted here. Indeed, this point is quite salient: Joe Perches wrote: >>> You can ask but it's the submitter's choice to license their code however >>> they desire. … to which I'd add, as long as the license is GPLv2-only-compatible, which of course (GPLv2-only|copyleft-next) is. Rest is admittedly a bit OT: Greg also noted: > I have stated in public many times to companies that try to add > dual-licensed new kernel code that they should only do so if they provide a > really good reason We can agree to disagree on the differences in how company vs. individual requests and their "good reasons" are handled/prioritized; I think we'd both agree it's actually moot anyway. While it's an important topic, I apologize for raising that as it was off-topic to the issue at hand. On that off-topic point, Tim Bird added: >> It's not at all purely symbolic to dual license (GPLv2-only|2-Clause-BSD). >> That dual-licensing has allowed the interchange of a lot of code between >> the BSD Unixes and Linux, that otherwise would not have happened. This is a good point, but the same argument is of course valid for copyleft-next-licensed projects. While there are currently fewer than those than BSD-ish projects, I don't think Linux should stand on ceremony of “your project must be this tall to ride this ride” and share code with us … and then there are the aspirational arguments that I made in my prior email. -- Bradley M. Kuhn - he/him Pls. support the charity where I work, Software Freedom Conservancy: https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/