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From: Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: Fix nr_uninterruptible race causing increasing load average
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 09:19:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YOrv/PvjudQ3HLPD@lorien.usersys.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YOhHphFWGbfAVODd@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hi Peter,

On Fri, Jul 09, 2021 at 02:57:10PM +0200 Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 10:54:58AM -0400, Phil Auld wrote:
> > Sorry... I don't have a nice diagram. I'm still looking at what all those
> > macros actually mean on the various architectures.
> 
> Don't worry about other architectures, lets focus on Power, because
> that's the case where you can reprouce funnies. Now Power only has 2
> barrier ops (not quite true, but close enough for all this):
> 
>  - SYNC is the full barrier
> 
>  - LWSYNC is a TSO like barrier
> 
> Pretty much everything (LOAD-ACQUIRE, STORE-RELEASE, WMB, RMB) uses
> LWSYNC. Only MB result in SYNC.
> 
> Power is 'funny' because their spinlocks are weaker than everybody
> else's, but AFAICT that doesn't seem relevant here.
>

Thanks.

> > Using what you have above I get the same thing. It looks like it should be
> > ordered but in practice it's not, and ordering it "more" as I did in the
> > patch, fixes it.
> 
> And you're running Linus' tree, not some franken-kernel from RHT, right?
> As asked in that other email, can you try with just the WMB added? I
> really don't believe that RMB you added can make a difference.

So, no. Right now the reproducer is on the franken-kernel :(

As far as I can tell the relevant code paths (schedule, barriers, wakeup
etc) are all current and the same. I traced through your diagram and
it all matches exactly.

I have a suspicion that Linus's tree may hide it. I believe this is tickled
by NFS io, which I _think_ is effected by the unboud workqueue changes
that may make it less likely to do the wakeup on a different cpu. But
that's just speculation. 

The issue is that the systems under test here are in a partner's lab
to which I have no direct access. 

I will try to get an upstream build on there, if possible, as soon
as I can.

> 
> Also, can you try with TTWU_QUEUE disabled (without any additional
> barriers added), that simplifies the wakeup path a lot.
>

Will do. 


> > Is it possible that the bit field is causing some of the assumptions about
> > ordering in those various macros to be off?
> 
> *should* not matter...
> 
> 	prev->sched_contributes_to_load = X;
> 
> 	smp_store_release(&prev->on_cpu, 0);
> 	  asm("LWSYNC" : : : "memory");
> 	  WRITE_ONCE(prev->on_cpu, 0);
> 
> due to that memory clobber, the compiler must emit whatever stores are
> required for the bitfield prior to the LWSYNC.
> 
> > I notice in all the comments about smp_mb__after_spinlock etc, it's always
> > WRITE_ONCE/READ_ONCE on the variables in question but we can't do that with
> > the bit field.
> 
> Yeah, but both ->on_rq and ->sched_contributes_to_load are 'normal'
> stores. That said, given that ttwu() does a READ_ONCE() on ->on_rq, we
> should match that with WRITE_ONCE()...
> 
> So I think we should do the below, but I don't believe it'll make a
> difference. Let me stare more.
>

I'm out of the office for the next week+ so don't stare to hard. I'll try to
get the tests you asked for as soon as I get back in the (home) office.

I'm not sure the below will make a difference either, but will try it too.

Thanks again for the help. And sorry for the timing.


Cheers,
Phil


> ---
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
> index ca9a523c9a6c..da93551b298d 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> @@ -1973,12 +1973,12 @@ void activate_task(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int flags)
>  {
>  	enqueue_task(rq, p, flags);
>  
> -	p->on_rq = TASK_ON_RQ_QUEUED;
> +	WRITE_ONCE(p->on_rq, TASK_ON_RQ_QUEUED);
>  }
>  
>  void deactivate_task(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int flags)
>  {
> -	p->on_rq = (flags & DEQUEUE_SLEEP) ? 0 : TASK_ON_RQ_MIGRATING;
> +	WRITE_ONCE(p->on_rq, (flags & DEQUEUE_SLEEP) ? 0 : TASK_ON_RQ_MIGRATING);
>  
>  	dequeue_task(rq, p, flags);
>  }
> @@ -5662,11 +5662,11 @@ static bool try_steal_cookie(int this, int that)
>  		if (p->core_occupation > dst->idle->core_occupation)
>  			goto next;
>  
> -		p->on_rq = TASK_ON_RQ_MIGRATING;
> +		WRITE_ONCE(p->on_rq, TASK_ON_RQ_MIGRATING);
>  		deactivate_task(src, p, 0);
>  		set_task_cpu(p, this);
>  		activate_task(dst, p, 0);
> -		p->on_rq = TASK_ON_RQ_QUEUED;
> +		WRITE_ONCE(p->on_rq, TASK_ON_RQ_QUEUED);
>  
>  		resched_curr(dst);
>  
> 

-- 


  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-11 13:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-07 19:04 [PATCH] sched: Fix nr_uninterruptible race causing increasing load average Phil Auld
2021-07-08  7:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-08  7:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-08  7:54     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-08 14:54       ` Phil Auld
2021-07-09 12:57         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-11 13:19           ` Phil Auld [this message]
2021-07-08 13:25   ` Phil Auld
2021-07-09 11:38     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-11 12:57       ` Phil Auld
2021-07-23 13:38       ` Phil Auld
2021-07-28 15:45         ` Phil Auld

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