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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Vasily Averin <vvs@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>, Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH memcg 0/1] false global OOM triggered by memcg-limited task
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 13:53:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YW1gRz0rTkJrvc4L@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6b751abe-aa52-d1d8-2631-ec471975cc3a@virtuozzo.com>

On Mon 18-10-21 13:05:35, Vasily Averin wrote:
> On 18.10.2021 12:04, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Mon 18-10-21 11:13:52, Vasily Averin wrote:
> > [...]
> >> How could this happen?
> >>
> >> User-space task inside the memcg-limited container generated a page fault,
> >> its handler do_user_addr_fault() called handle_mm_fault which could not
> >> allocate the page due to exceeding the memcg limit and returned VM_FAULT_OOM.
> >> Then do_user_addr_fault() called pagefault_out_of_memory() which executed
> >> out_of_memory() without set of memcg.
> >>
> >> Partially this problem depends on one of my recent patches, disabled unlimited
> >> memory allocation for dying tasks. However I think the problem can happen
> >> on non-killed tasks too, for example because of kmem limit.
> > 
> > Could you be more specific on how this can happen without your patch? I
> > have to say I haven't realized this side effect when discussing it.
> 
> We can reach obj_cgroup_charge_pages() for example via
> 
> do_user_addr_fault
> handle_mm_fault
> __handle_mm_fault
> p4d_alloc
> __p4d_alloc
> p4d_alloc_one
> get_zeroed_page
> __get_free_pages
> alloc_pages
> __alloc_pages
> __memcg_kmem_charge_page
> obj_cgroup_charge_pages
> 
> Here we call try_charge_memcg() that return success and approve the allocation,
> however then we hit into kmem limit and fail the allocation.

Just to make sure I understand this would be for the v1 kmem explicit
limit, correct?

> If required I can try to search how try_charge_memcg() can reject page allocation 
> of non-dying task too.

Yes.

> > I will be honest that I am not really happy about pagefault_out_of_memory.
> > I have tried to remove it in the past. Without much success back then,
> > unfortunately[1]. 
> > Maybe we should get rid of it finally. The OOM is always triggered from
> > inside the allocator where we have much more infromation about the
> > allocation context. A first step would be to skip pagefault_out_of_memory
> > for killed or exiting processes.
> 
> I like this idea, however it may be not enough, at least in scenario described above.

I original patch has removed the oom killer completely.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-18 11:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-18  8:13 [PATCH memcg 0/1] false global OOM triggered by memcg-limited task Vasily Averin
2021-10-18  9:04 ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 10:05   ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-18 10:12     ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-18 11:53     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
     [not found]       ` <27dc0c49-a0d6-875b-49c6-0ef5c0cc3ac8@virtuozzo.com>
2021-10-18 12:27         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 15:07           ` Shakeel Butt
2021-10-18 16:51             ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 17:13               ` Shakeel Butt
2021-10-18 18:52             ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-18 19:18               ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19  5:34                 ` Shakeel Butt
2021-10-19  5:33               ` Shakeel Butt
2021-10-19  6:42                 ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19  8:47                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19  6:30       ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19  8:49         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 10:30           ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19 11:54             ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 12:04               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 13:26                 ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19 14:13                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 14:19                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 19:09                     ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20  8:07                       ` [PATCH memcg v4] memcg: prohibit unconditional exceeding the limit of dying tasks Vasily Averin
2021-10-20  8:43                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 12:11                           ` [PATCH memcg RFC 0/3] " Vasily Averin
     [not found]                           ` <cover.1634730787.git.vvs@virtuozzo.com>
2021-10-20 12:12                             ` [PATCH memcg 1/3] mm: do not firce global OOM from inside " Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 12:33                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 13:52                                 ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 12:13                             ` [PATCH memcg 2/3] memcg: remove charge forcinig for " Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 12:41                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 14:21                                 ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 14:57                                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 15:20                                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-10-21 10:03                                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 12:14                             ` [PATCH memcg 3/3] memcg: handle memcg oom failures Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 13:02                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 15:46                                 ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-21 11:49                                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-21 15:05                                     ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-21 16:47                                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-22  8:10                                         ` [PATCH memcg v2 0/2] memcg: prohibit unconditional exceeding the limit of dying tasks Vasily Averin
     [not found]                                         ` <cover.1634889066.git.vvs@virtuozzo.com>
2021-10-22  8:11                                           ` [PATCH memcg v2 1/2] mm, oom: do not trigger out_of_memory from the #PF Vasily Averin
2021-10-22  8:55                                             ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-22  8:11                                           ` [PATCH memcg v2 2/2] memcg: prohibit unconditional exceeding the limit of dying tasks Vasily Averin
2021-10-22  9:10                                             ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-23 13:18                                               ` [PATCH memcg v3 0/3] " Vasily Averin
     [not found]                                               ` <cover.1634994605.git.vvs@virtuozzo.com>
2021-10-23 13:19                                                 ` [PATCH memcg v3 1/3] mm, oom: pagefault_out_of_memory: don't force global OOM for " Vasily Averin
2021-10-25  9:27                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-23 13:20                                                 ` [PATCH memcg v3 2/3] mm, oom: do not trigger out_of_memory from the #PF Vasily Averin
2021-10-23 15:01                                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-10-23 19:15                                                     ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-25  8:04                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-26 13:56                                                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-10-26 14:07                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-25  9:34                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-23 13:20                                                 ` [PATCH memcg v3 3/3] memcg: prohibit unconditional exceeding the limit of dying tasks Vasily Averin
2021-10-25  9:36                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-27 22:36                                                     ` Andrew Morton
2021-10-28  7:22                                                       ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-29  7:46                                                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-29  7:58                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-21  8:03   ` [PATCH memcg 0/1] false global OOM triggered by memcg-limited task Vasily Averin
2021-10-21 11:49     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-21 13:24       ` Vasily Averin

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