From: Ansuel Smith <ansuelsmth@gmail.com>
To: "Marek Behún" <kabel@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
John Crispin <john@phrozen.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-leds@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 0/8] Adds support for PHY LEDs with offload triggers
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2021 16:35:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YY6JufxwvXpZp6yT@Ansuel-xps.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211111031608.11267828@thinkpad>
On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 03:16:08AM +0100, Marek Behún wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 02:34:52 +0100
> Ansuel Smith <ansuelsmth@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This is another attempt in adding support for PHY LEDs. Most of the
> > times Switch/PHY have connected multiple LEDs that are controlled by HW
> > based on some rules/event. Currently we lack any support for a generic
> > way to control the HW part and normally we either never implement the
> > feature or only add control for brightness or hw blink.
> >
> > This is based on Marek idea of providing some API to cled but use a
> > different implementation that in theory should be more generilized.
> >
> > The current idea is:
> > - LED driver implement 3 API (hw_control_status/start/stop).
> > They are used to put the LED in hardware mode and to configure the
> > various trigger.
> > - We have hardware triggers that are used to expose to userspace the
> > supported hardware mode and set the hardware mode on trigger
> > activation.
> > - We can also have triggers that both support hardware and software mode.
> > - The LED driver will declare each supported hardware blink mode and
> > communicate with the trigger all the supported blink modes that will
> > be available by sysfs.
> > - A trigger will use blink_set to configure the blink mode to active
> > in hardware mode.
> > - On hardware trigger activation, only the hardware mode is enabled but
> > the blink modes are not configured. The LED driver should reset any
> > link mode active by default.
> >
> > Each LED driver will have to declare explicit support for the offload
> > trigger (or return not supported error code) as we the trigger_data that
> > the LED driver will elaborate and understand what is referring to (based
> > on the current active trigger).
> >
> > I posted a user for this new implementation that will benefit from this
> > and will add a big feature to it. Currently qca8k can have up to 3 LEDs
> > connected to each PHY port and we have some device that have only one of
> > them connected and the default configuration won't work for that.
> >
> > I also posted the netdev trigger expanded with the hardware support.
> >
> > More polish is required but this is just to understand if I'm taking
> > the correct path with this implementation hoping we find a correct
> > implementation and we start working on the ""small details""
>
> Hello Ansuel,
>
> besides other things, I am still against the idea of the
> `hardware-phy-activity` trigger: I think that if the user wants the LED
> to indicate network device's link status or activity, it should always
> be done via the existing netdev trigger, and with that trigger only.
>
> Yes, I know that netdev trigger does not currently support indicating
> different link modes, only whether the link is up (in any mode). That
> should be solved by extending the netdev trigger.
>
> I am going to try to revive my last attempt and send my proposal again.
> Hope you don't mind.
>
> Marek
Honestly... It's a bit sad.
The netdev trigger have its limitation and I see introducing an
additional trigger a practical way to correctly support some
strange/specific PHY.
I implemented both idea: expand netdev and introduce a dedicated
trigger and still this is problematic.
Is having an additional trigger for the specific task that bad?
I don't care as long as the feature is implemented but again
pretty sad how this LEDs proposal went.
--
Ansuel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-12 15:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-11 1:34 [RFC PATCH v4 0/8] Adds support for PHY LEDs with offload triggers Ansuel Smith
2021-11-11 1:34 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/8] leds: add support for hardware driven LEDs Ansuel Smith
2021-11-11 2:24 ` Randy Dunlap
2021-11-11 1:34 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/8] leds: document additional use of blink_set for hardware control Ansuel Smith
2021-11-11 2:28 ` Randy Dunlap
2021-11-11 1:34 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/8] leds: trigger: netdev: drop NETDEV_LED_MODE_LINKUP from mode Ansuel Smith
2021-11-11 1:34 ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/8] leds: trigger: netdev: rename and expose NETDEV trigger enum and struct Ansuel Smith
2021-11-11 1:34 ` [RFC PATCH v4 5/8] leds: trigger: netdev: add hardware control support Ansuel Smith
2021-11-11 1:34 ` [RFC PATCH v4 6/8] leds: trigger: add hardware-phy-activity trigger Ansuel Smith
2021-11-11 2:18 ` Randy Dunlap
2021-11-11 1:34 ` [RFC PATCH v4 7/8] net: dsa: qca8k: add LEDs support Ansuel Smith
2021-11-11 2:19 ` Randy Dunlap
2021-11-11 1:35 ` [RFC PATCH v4 8/8] dt-bindings: net: dsa: qca8k: add LEDs definition example Ansuel Smith
2021-11-11 2:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/8] Adds support for PHY LEDs with offload triggers Marek Behún
2021-11-12 15:35 ` Ansuel Smith [this message]
2021-11-12 18:30 ` Marek Behún
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