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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@inai.de>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel-team <kernel-team@android.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] mm: prevent a race between process_mrelease and exit_mmap
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 21:10:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YYrVmi2xdo1Gr2Bb@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpFT4-mdHHZ2i43hyJQ4dRKb7sRwnAL8GfRnZu3ecE26Ew@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue 09-11-21 12:02:37, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 11:50 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue 09-11-21 11:37:06, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 11:26 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue 09-11-21 11:01:02, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > > [...]
> > > > > Discussing how the patch I want to post works for maple trees that
> > > > > Matthew is working on, I've got a question:
> > > > >
> > > > > IIUC, according to Michal's post here:
> > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20170725154514.GN26723@dhcp22.suse.cz,
> > > > > unmap_vmas() can race with other mmap_lock read holders (including
> > > > > oom_reap_task_mm()) with no issues.
> > > > > Maple tree patchset requires rcu read lock or the mmap semaphore be
> > > > > held (read or write side) when walking the tree, including inside
> > > > > unmap_vmas(). When asked, he told me that he is not sure why it's
> > > > > currently "safe" to walk the vma->vm_next list in unmap_vmas() while
> > > > > another thread is reaping the mm.
> > > > > Michal (or maybe someone else), could you please clarify why
> > > > > unmap_vmas() can safely race with oom_reap_task_mm()? Or maybe my
> > > > > understanding was wrong?
> > > >
> > > > I cannot really comment on the mapple tree part. But the existing
> > > > synchronization between oom reaper and exit_mmap is based on
> > > > - oom_reaper takes mmap_sem for reading
> > > > - exit_mmap sets MMF_OOM_SKIP and takes the exclusive mmap_sem before
> > > >   unmap_vmas.
> > > >
> > > > The oom_reaper therefore can either unmap the address space if the lock
> > > > is taken before exit_mmap or it would it would bale out on MMF_OOM_SKIP
> > > > if it takes the lock afterwards. So the reaper cannot race with
> > > > unmap_vmas.
> > >
> > > I see. So, it's the combination of MMF_OOM_SKIP and mmap_lock working
> > > as a barrier which prevent them from racing with each other...
> > > I wasn't sure how
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20170724072332.31903-1-mhocko@kernel.org/
> > > was implementing this synchronization because it would take mmap_sem
> > > write side after unmap_vmas() and IIUC there was no
> > > "mmap_lock_write(); mmap_unlock_write();" sequence in exit_mmap at
> > > that time. I'll need to checkout the old sources to figure this out.
> >
> > My memory is rather dimm but AFAIR the main problem was freeing page
> > tables and freeing vmas not unmap_vmas. That one was no modifying the
> > vma list. Essentially it was just a slightly modified madvise don't
> > need. So that part was allowed to race with oom_reaper.
> 
> So, both unmap_vmas and __oom_reap_task_mm do not modify vma list and
> therefore can execute concurrently. That makes sense, thanks.

Yes, those can run concurrently. One thing I completely forgot about is 
27ae357fa82b ("mm, oom: fix concurrent munlock and oom reaper unmap, v3")
which is about interaction with the munlock.
 
> Then I guess, if we want to be semantically correct in exit_mmap(), we
> would have to take mmap_read_lock before unmap_vmas, then drop it and
> take mmap_write_lock before free_pgtables.

I think it would be just more straightforward to take the exclusive lock
for the whole operation.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-09 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-22  1:46 [PATCH 1/1] mm: prevent a race between process_mrelease and exit_mmap Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-10-22  2:24 ` Andrew Morton
2021-10-22  5:23   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-10-22  8:03 ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-22 11:32   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-22 12:04     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-22 17:38   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-10-27 16:08     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-10-27 17:33       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-27 17:42         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-10-27 17:51           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-27 18:00             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-10-29 13:03       ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-29 16:07         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-01  8:37           ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-01 15:44             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-01 19:59               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-02  7:58               ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-02 15:14                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-09 19:01                   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-09 19:26                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-09 19:37                       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-09 19:50                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-09 20:02                           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-09 20:10                             ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2021-11-09 21:10                               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-11  1:49                                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-11  9:20                                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-11 15:02                                     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-12  8:58                                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-12 16:00                                         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-09 19:41                       ` Michal Hocko

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