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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Peter Oskolkov <posk@posk.io>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Peter Oskolkov <posk@google.com>,
	Andrei Vagin <avagin@google.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Thierry Delisle <tdelisle@uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v0.9.1 3/6] sched/umcg: implement UMCG syscalls
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 13:04:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ya38RAveh31aYH0k@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ya30xsrQnwyT/R92@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 12:32:22PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 03:38:38PM -0800, Peter Oskolkov wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 1:08 PM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> Now, the above situation is actually simple to fix, but it gets more
> interesting when we're using sys_umcg_wait() to build wait primitives.
> Because in that case we get stuff like:
> 
> 	for (;;) {
> 		self->state = RUNNABLE;
> 		smp_mb();
> 		if (cond)
> 			break;
> 		sys_umcg_wait();
> 	}
> 	self->state = RUNNING;
> 
> And we really need to not block and also not do sys_umcg_wait() early.
> 
> So yes, I agree that we need a special case here that ensures
> umcg_notify_resume() doesn't block. Let me ponder naming and comments.
> Either a TF_COND_WAIT or a whole new state. I can't decide yet.

Hurmph... OTOH since self above hasn't actually done anything yet, it
isn't reported as runnable yet, and so for all intents and purposes the
userspace state thinks it's running (which is true) and nobody should be
trying a concurrent wakeup and there anre't any races.

Bah, now I'm confused again :-) Let me go think more.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-06 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-22 21:13 [PATCH v0.9.1 0/6] sched,mm,x86/uaccess: implement User Managed Concurrency Groups Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-22 21:13 ` [PATCH v0.9.1 1/6] sched/umcg: add WF_CURRENT_CPU and externise ttwu Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-22 21:13 ` [PATCH v0.9.1 2/6] mm, x86/uaccess: add userspace atomic helpers Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-24 14:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-22 21:13 ` [PATCH v0.9.1 3/6] sched/umcg: implement UMCG syscalls Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-24 18:36   ` kernel test robot
2021-11-24 20:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-24 21:32     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-25 17:28     ` Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-26 17:09       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-26 21:08         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-26 21:59           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-26 22:07             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-27  0:45             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 15:05               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-26 22:16         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-27  1:16           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 15:07             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-29  0:29         ` Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-29 16:41           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-29 17:34             ` Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-29 21:08               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-29 21:29                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-29 23:38                 ` Peter Oskolkov
2021-12-06 11:32                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-12-06 12:04                     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2021-12-13 13:55                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-12-06 11:47               ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-19 17:26                 ` Peter Oskolkov
2022-01-20 11:07                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-24 21:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-26 21:11     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-26 21:52       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-29 22:07         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 22:22           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-24 21:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-24 21:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-24 22:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-22 21:13 ` [PATCH v0.9.1 4/6] sched/umcg, lib/umcg: implement libumcg Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-22 21:13 ` [PATCH v0.9.1 5/6] sched/umcg: add Documentation/userspace-api/umcg.txt Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-22 21:13 ` [PATCH v0.9.1 6/6] sched/umcg, lib/umcg: add tools/lib/umcg/libumcg.txt Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-24 14:06 ` [PATCH v0.9.1 0/6] sched,mm,x86/uaccess: implement User Managed Concurrency Groups Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-24 16:28   ` Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-24 17:20     ` Peter Zijlstra

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