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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Nicolas Saenz Julienne <nsaenzju@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, paulmck <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	maz <maz@kernel.org>, frederic <frederic@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	rcu <rcu@vger.kernel.org>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Anup Patel <Anup.Patel@wdc.com>
Subject: Re: Possible nohz-full/RCU issue in arm64 KVM
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:23:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yd12rvDxyIWzEXWc@FVFF77S0Q05N> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <399d8805ca09f7d3c905b8c653abf60dd7141574.camel@redhat.com>

On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 12:32:38PM +0100, Nicolas Saenz Julienne wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> 
> On Tue, 2022-01-04 at 16:39 +0000, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 04:54:22PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > > On 12/17/21 15:38, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > > > For example kvm_guest_enter_irqoff() calls guest_enter_irq_off() which calls
> > > > vtime_account_guest_enter(), but kvm_guest_exit_irqoff() doesn't call
> > > > guest_exit_irq_off() and the call to vtime_account_guest_exit() is open-coded
> > > > elsewhere. Also, guest_enter_irq_off() conditionally calls
> > > > rcu_virt_note_context_switch(), but I can't immediately spot anything on the
> > > > exit side that corresponded with that, which looks suspicious.
> > > 
> > > rcu_note_context_switch() is a point-in-time notification; it's not strictly
> > > necessary, but it may improve performance a bit by avoiding unnecessary IPIs
> > > from the RCU subsystem.
> > > 
> > > There's no benefit from doing it when you're back from the guest, because at
> > > that point the CPU is just running normal kernel code.
> > 
> > I see.
> > 
> > My main issue here was just that it's really difficult to see how the
> > entry/exit logic is balanced, and I reckon we can solve that by splitting
> > guest_{enter,exit}_irqoff() into helper functions to handle the vtime
> > accounting separately from the context tracking, so that arch code can do
> > something like:
> > 
> >   guest_timing_enter_irqoff();
> >   
> >   guest_eqs_enter_irqoff();
> >   < actually run vCPU here >
> >   guest_eqs_exit_irqoff();
> >   
> >   < handle pending IRQs here >
> >   
> >   guest_timing_exit_irqoff();
> > 
> > ... which I hope should work for RISC-V too.
> > 
> > I've had a go, and I've pushed out a WIP to:
> > 
> >   https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mark/linux.git/log/?h=arm64/kvm/rcu
> 
> Had a look at the patches and they seeem OK to me.
> 
> Thanks!

Cool.

FWIW I have an updated version at:

  https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mark/linux.git/log/?h=kvm/entry-rework

... which is largely the same approach, but the helpers got renamed, the
lockdep/tracing bits got fixed, and I've aligned mips, riscv, and x86 on the
same approach.

Once I get a free hour or so I intend to rebase that atop v5.16 and post that
out. I'll start a new thread with that, and rope in the relevant arch
maintainers (since e.g. I'm not sure what to do for ppc and s390).

Thanks,
Mark.

> 
> -- 
> Nicolás Sáenz
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-11 12:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-17 11:51 Possible nohz-full/RCU issue in arm64 KVM Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2021-12-17 13:21 ` Mark Rutland
2021-12-17 14:15   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2021-12-17 14:38     ` Mark Rutland
2021-12-17 15:54       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-17 16:07         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-12-17 16:20           ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2021-12-17 16:43             ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-12-17 16:34           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-17 16:45             ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-12-17 17:02               ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-17 17:12                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-12-17 17:23                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-17 17:47                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-01-04 16:39         ` Mark Rutland
2022-01-04 17:07           ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-01-11 11:32           ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2022-01-11 12:23             ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2021-12-17 14:51   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-20 14:28   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-12-20 16:10   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-01-04 13:24     ` Mark Rutland

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