From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>
Cc: Alexander Duyck <alexanderduyck@fb.com>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
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Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
Steffen Klassert <steffen.klassert@secunet.com>,
Steve Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC 15/16] sched/fair: Account kthread runtime debt for CFS bandwidth
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:58:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yd1w/TxTcGk5Ht53@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220106004656.126790-16-daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>
On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 07:46:55PM -0500, Daniel Jordan wrote:
> As before, helpers in multithreaded jobs don't honor the main thread's
> CFS bandwidth limits, which could lead to the group exceeding its quota.
>
> Fix it by having helpers remote charge their CPU time to the main
> thread's task group. A helper calls a pair of new interfaces
> cpu_cgroup_remote_begin() and cpu_cgroup_remote_charge() (see function
> header comments) to achieve this.
>
> This is just supposed to start a discussion, so it's pretty simple.
> Once a kthread has finished a remote charging period with
> cpu_cgroup_remote_charge(), its runtime is subtracted from the target
> task group's runtime (cfs_bandwidth::runtime) and any remainder is saved
> as debt (cfs_bandwidth::debt) to pay off in later periods.
>
> Remote charging tasks aren't throttled when the group reaches its quota,
> and a task group doesn't run at all until its debt is completely paid,
> but these shortcomings can be addressed if the approach ends up being
> taken.
>
*groan*... and not a single word on why it wouldn't be much better to
simply move the task into the relevant cgroup..
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-11 11:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-06 0:46 [RFC 00/16] padata, vfio, sched: Multithreaded VFIO page pinning Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06 0:46 ` [RFC 01/16] padata: Remove __init from multithreading functions Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06 0:46 ` [RFC 02/16] padata: Return first error from a job Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06 0:46 ` [RFC 03/16] padata: Add undo support Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06 0:46 ` [RFC 04/16] padata: Detect deadlocks between main and helper threads Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06 0:46 ` [RFC 05/16] vfio/type1: Pass mm to vfio_pin_pages_remote() Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06 0:46 ` [RFC 06/16] vfio/type1: Refactor dma map removal Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06 0:46 ` [RFC 07/16] vfio/type1: Parallelize vfio_pin_map_dma() Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06 0:46 ` [RFC 08/16] vfio/type1: Cache locked_vm to ease mmap_lock contention Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06 0:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-06 1:17 ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06 12:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-06 21:05 ` Alex Williamson
2022-01-07 0:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-07 3:06 ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-07 15:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-07 16:39 ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06 0:46 ` [RFC 09/16] padata: Use kthreads in do_multithreaded Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06 0:46 ` [RFC 10/16] padata: Helpers should respect main thread's CPU affinity Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06 0:46 ` [RFC 11/16] padata: Cap helpers started to online CPUs Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06 0:46 ` [RFC 12/16] sched, padata: Bound max threads with max_cfs_bandwidth_cpus() Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06 0:46 ` [RFC 13/16] padata: Run helper threads at MAX_NICE Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06 0:46 ` [RFC 14/16] padata: Nice helper threads one by one to prevent starvation Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06 0:46 ` [RFC 15/16] sched/fair: Account kthread runtime debt for CFS bandwidth Daniel Jordan
2022-01-11 11:58 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2022-01-11 16:29 ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-12 20:18 ` Tejun Heo
2022-01-13 21:08 ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-13 21:11 ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-14 9:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-14 9:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-14 16:38 ` Tejun Heo
2022-01-18 17:40 ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-14 16:30 ` Tejun Heo
2022-01-18 17:32 ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06 0:46 ` [RFC 16/16] sched/fair: Consider kthread debt in cputime Daniel Jordan
2022-01-06 1:13 ` [RFC 00/16] padata, vfio, sched: Multithreaded VFIO page pinning Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-07 3:03 ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-07 17:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-10 22:27 ` Daniel Jordan
2022-01-11 0:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-11 16:20 ` Daniel Jordan
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