From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0000/2297] [ANNOUNCE, RFC] "Fast Kernel Headers" Tree -v1: Eliminate the Linux kernel's "Dependency Hell"
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2022 18:18:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YdRzRLqihstavvyd@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YdIfz+LMewetSaEB@gmail.com>
On Sun, Jan 02, 2022 at 10:57:35PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> I'm pleased to announce the first public version of my new "Fast Kernel
> Headers" project that I've been working on since late 2020, which is a
> comprehensive rework of the Linux kernel's header hierarchy & header
> dependencies, with the dual goals of:
>
> - speeding up the kernel build (both absolute and incremental build times)
>
> - decoupling subsystem type & API definitions from each other
>
> The fast-headers tree consists of over 25 sub-trees internally, spanning
> over 2,200 commits, which can be found here:
>
> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mingo/tip.git master
>
> As most kernel developers know, there's around ~10,000 main .h headers in
> the Linux kernel, in the include/ and arch/*/include/ hierarchies. Over the
> last 30+ years they have grown into a complicated & painful set of
> cross-dependencies we are affectionately calling 'Dependency Hell'.
$ git grep -n -w kernel.h mingo/sched/headers -- include/ | wc -l
138
$ git grep -n -w kernel.h next/master -- include/ | wc -l
96
Can we rather split kernel.h more? In some cases kernel.h is used just as a
bundle instead of ~2-3 headers.
And I can't get why kernel.h is returned in the drm headers. AFAICT there are no
dependencies:
mingo/sched/headers:include/drm/drm_gem_ttm_helper.h:6:#include <linux/kernel.h>
mingo/sched/headers:include/drm/drm_gem_vram_helper.h:15:#include <linux/kernel.h> /* for container_of() */
mingo/sched/headers:include/drm/drm_mm.h:44:#include <linux/kernel.h>
mingo/sched/headers:include/drm/drm_property.h:28:#include <linux/kernel.h>
mingo/sched/headers:include/drm/intel-gtt.h:9:#include <linux/kernel.h>
Ah, it may be due to base on the vanilla rather than on next, it would be
nice to see this rebased on top of v5.17-rc1 when it's out.
--
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-04 16:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-02 21:57 [PATCH 0000/2297] [ANNOUNCE, RFC] "Fast Kernel Headers" Tree -v1: Eliminate the Linux kernel's "Dependency Hell" Ingo Molnar
2022-01-03 10:11 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-03 11:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2022-01-03 13:46 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-03 16:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2022-01-10 10:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-04 14:10 ` [PATCH] per_task: Remove the PER_TASK_BYTES hard-coded constant Ingo Molnar
2022-01-04 15:14 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-04 23:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2022-01-04 17:51 ` [PATCH 0000/2297] [ANNOUNCE, RFC] "Fast Kernel Headers" Tree -v1: Eliminate the Linux kernel's "Dependency Hell" Arnd Bergmann
2022-01-05 0:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2022-01-05 1:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-01-05 9:37 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-04 14:05 ` [PATCH] per_task: Implement single template to define 'struct task_struct_per_task' fields and offsets Ingo Molnar
2022-01-03 13:54 ` [PATCH 0000/2297] [ANNOUNCE, RFC] "Fast Kernel Headers" Tree -v1: Eliminate the Linux kernel's "Dependency Hell" Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-04 10:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2022-01-04 13:34 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-04 13:54 ` [PATCH] headers/uninline: Uninline single-use function: kobject_has_children() Ingo Molnar
2022-01-04 15:09 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-04 15:14 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-05 0:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2022-01-05 15:23 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-06 11:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2022-01-03 17:54 ` [PATCH 0000/2297] [ANNOUNCE, RFC] "Fast Kernel Headers" Tree -v1: Eliminate the Linux kernel's "Dependency Hell" Nathan Chancellor
2022-01-04 10:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2022-01-04 10:56 ` [DEBUG PATCH] DO NOT MERGE: Enable SHADOW_CALL_STACK on GCC builds, for build testing Ingo Molnar
2022-01-04 11:02 ` [PATCH] headers/deps: dcache: Move the ____cacheline_aligned attribute to the head of the definition Ingo Molnar
2022-01-04 15:05 ` kernel test robot
2022-01-04 17:51 ` Nathan Chancellor
2022-01-05 0:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2022-01-05 0:26 ` [PATCH] headers/deps: Attribute placement fixes for Clang & GCC Ingo Molnar
2022-01-04 11:19 ` [TREE] "Fast Kernel Headers" Tree WIP/development branch Ingo Molnar
2022-01-04 17:25 ` [PATCH 0000/2297] [ANNOUNCE, RFC] "Fast Kernel Headers" Tree -v1: Eliminate the Linux kernel's "Dependency Hell" Nick Desaulniers
2022-01-05 0:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2022-01-04 17:50 ` Nathan Chancellor
2022-01-05 0:35 ` [PATCH] x86/kbuild: Enable CONFIG_KALLSYMS_ALL=y in the defconfigs Ingo Molnar
2022-01-08 21:57 ` [tip: x86/build] " tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2022-01-05 0:40 ` [PATCH 0000/2297] [ANNOUNCE, RFC] "Fast Kernel Headers" Tree -v1: Eliminate the Linux kernel's "Dependency Hell" Ingo Molnar
2022-01-05 1:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2022-01-05 5:20 ` [PATCH 0000/2297] [ANNOUNCE, RFC] "Fast Kernel Headers" Tree -v1: Eliminate the Linux kernel'\''s "Dependency Hell Paul Zimmerman
2022-01-05 21:42 ` [PATCH 0000/2297] [ANNOUNCE, RFC] "Fast Kernel Headers" Tree -v1: Eliminate the Linux kernel's "Dependency Hell" Nathan Chancellor
2022-01-08 10:32 ` [PATCH] headers/deps: Add header dependencies to .c files: <linux/ptrace_api.h> Ingo Molnar
2022-01-08 11:08 ` [PATCH] FIX: headers/deps: uapi/headers: Create usr/include/uapi symbolic link Ingo Molnar
2022-01-08 11:18 ` [PATCH 0000/2297] [ANNOUNCE, RFC] "Fast Kernel Headers" Tree -v1: Eliminate the Linux kernel's "Dependency Hell" Ingo Molnar
2022-01-08 11:38 ` [PATCH] x86/bitops: Remove unused __sw_hweight64() assembly implementation Ingo Molnar
2022-01-08 11:49 ` [PATCH 0000/2297] [ANNOUNCE, RFC] "Fast Kernel Headers" Tree -v1: Eliminate the Linux kernel's "Dependency Hell" Ingo Molnar
2022-01-08 12:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2022-01-10 20:03 ` Nathan Chancellor
2022-01-10 20:05 ` Nathan Chancellor
2022-01-05 22:33 ` Nathan Chancellor
2022-01-08 15:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2022-01-07 0:29 ` Nathan Chancellor
2022-01-08 11:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2022-01-04 12:36 ` Willy Tarreau
2022-01-04 16:05 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-04 16:18 ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2022-01-15 0:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
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