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From: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
To: Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 01/16] mm: list_lru: optimize memory consumption of arrays of per cgroup lists
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 16:05:30 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YdeDym9IUghnagrK@carbon.dhcp.thefacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211220085649.8196-2-songmuchun@bytedance.com>

On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 04:56:34PM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
> The list_lru uses an array (list_lru_memcg->lru) to store pointers
> which point to the list_lru_one. And the array is per memcg per node.
> Therefore, the size of the arrays will be 10K * number_of_node * 8 (
> a pointer size on 64 bits system) when we run 10k containers in the
> system. The memory consumption of the arrays becomes significant. The
> more numa node, the more memory it consumes.
> 
> I have done a simple test, which creates 10K memcg and mount point
> each in a two-node system. The memory consumption of the list_lru
> will be 24464MB. After converting the array from per memcg per node
> to per memcg, the memory consumption is going to be 21957MB. It is
> reduces by 2.5GB. In our AMD servers with 8 numa nodes in those
> sysuem, the memory consumption could be more significant. The savings
> come from the list_lru_one heads, that it also simplifies the
> alloc/dealloc path.
> 
> The new scheme looks like the following.
> 
>   +----------+   mlrus   +----------------+   mlru   +----------------------+
>   | list_lru +---------->| list_lru_memcg +--------->|  list_lru_per_memcg  |
>   +----------+           +----------------+          +----------------------+
>                                                      |  list_lru_per_memcg  |
>                                                      +----------------------+
>                                                      |          ...         |
>                           +--------------+   node    +----------------------+
>                           | list_lru_one |<----------+  list_lru_per_memcg  |
>                           +--------------+           +----------------------+
>                           | list_lru_one |
>                           +--------------+
>                           |      ...     |
>                           +--------------+
>                           | list_lru_one |
>                           +--------------+
> 
> Signed-off-by: Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>
> Acked-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>

As much as I like the code changes (there is indeed a significant simplification!),
I don't like the commit message and title, because I wasn't able to understand
what the patch is doing and some parts look simply questionable. Overall it
sounds like you reduce the number of list_lru_one structures, which is not true.

How about something like this?

--
mm: list_lru: transpose the array of per-node per-memcg lru lists

The current scheme of maintaining per-node per-memcg lru lists looks like:
  struct list_lru {
    struct list_lru_node *node;           (for each node)
      struct list_lru_memcg *memcg_lrus;
        struct list_lru_one *lru[];       (for each memcg)
  }

By effectively transposing the two-dimension array of list_lru_one's structures
(per-node per-memcg => per-memcg per-node) it's possible to save some memory
and simplify alloc/dealloc paths. The new scheme looks like:
  struct list_lru {
    struct list_lru_memcg *mlrus;
      struct list_lru_per_memcg *mlru[];  (for each memcg)
        struct list_lru_one node[0];      (for each node)
  }

Memory savings are coming from having fewer list_lru_memcg structures, which
contain an extra struct rcu_head to handle the destruction process.
--

But what worries me is that memory savings numbers you posted don't do up.
In theory we can save
16 (size of struct rcu_head) * 10000 (number of cgroups) * 2 (number of numa nodes) = 320k
per slab cache. Did you have a ton of mount points? Otherwise I don't understand
where these 2.5Gb are coming from.

Thanks!

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-07  0:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-20  8:56 [PATCH v5 00/16] Optimize list lru memory consumption Muchun Song
2021-12-20  8:56 ` [PATCH v5 01/16] mm: list_lru: optimize memory consumption of arrays of per cgroup lists Muchun Song
2022-01-07  0:05   ` Roman Gushchin [this message]
2022-01-09  4:49     ` Muchun Song
2022-01-10 18:42       ` Roman Gushchin
2022-01-11  3:19         ` Muchun Song
2021-12-20  8:56 ` [PATCH v5 02/16] mm: introduce kmem_cache_alloc_lru Muchun Song
2022-01-07  3:04   ` Roman Gushchin
2022-01-09  6:21     ` Muchun Song
2022-01-10 18:47       ` Roman Gushchin
2022-01-11 15:41         ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-01-11 17:54           ` Roman Gushchin
2021-12-20  8:56 ` [PATCH v5 03/16] fs: introduce alloc_inode_sb() to allocate filesystems specific inode Muchun Song
2022-01-11 18:55   ` Roman Gushchin
2022-01-12  2:54     ` Muchun Song
2021-12-20  8:56 ` [PATCH v5 04/16] fs: allocate inode by using alloc_inode_sb() Muchun Song
2022-01-11 18:58   ` Roman Gushchin
2022-01-12  2:55     ` Muchun Song
2021-12-20  8:56 ` [PATCH v5 05/16] f2fs: " Muchun Song
2022-01-11 19:03   ` Roman Gushchin
2021-12-20  8:56 ` [PATCH v5 06/16] nfs42: use a specific kmem_cache to allocate nfs4_xattr_entry Muchun Song
2021-12-20  8:56 ` [PATCH v5 07/16] mm: dcache: use kmem_cache_alloc_lru() to allocate dentry Muchun Song
2022-01-11 19:05   ` Roman Gushchin
2021-12-20  8:56 ` [PATCH v5 08/16] xarray: use kmem_cache_alloc_lru to allocate xa_node Muchun Song
2022-01-11 19:14   ` Roman Gushchin
2021-12-20  8:56 ` [PATCH v5 09/16] mm: memcontrol: move memcg_online_kmem() to mem_cgroup_css_online() Muchun Song
2022-01-11 19:17   ` Roman Gushchin
2021-12-20  8:56 ` [PATCH v5 10/16] mm: list_lru: allocate list_lru_one only when needed Muchun Song
2022-01-06 11:00   ` Michal Koutný
2022-01-12 13:22     ` Muchun Song
2022-01-13 13:32       ` Michal Koutný
2022-01-18 12:05         ` Muchun Song
2022-01-19  9:33           ` Michal Koutný
2022-01-21  5:28             ` Muchun Song
2022-01-11 20:00   ` Roman Gushchin
2022-01-12  4:48     ` Muchun Song
2021-12-20  8:56 ` [PATCH v5 11/16] mm: list_lru: rename memcg_drain_all_list_lrus to memcg_reparent_list_lrus Muchun Song
2021-12-20  8:56 ` [PATCH v5 12/16] mm: list_lru: replace linear array with xarray Muchun Song
2021-12-20  8:56 ` [PATCH v5 13/16] mm: memcontrol: reuse memory cgroup ID for kmem ID Muchun Song
2021-12-20  9:27   ` Mika Penttilä
2022-01-05 17:03   ` Michal Koutný
2022-01-06  3:34     ` Muchun Song
2021-12-20  8:56 ` [PATCH v5 14/16] mm: memcontrol: fix cannot alloc the maximum memcg ID Muchun Song
2021-12-20  8:56 ` [PATCH v5 15/16] mm: list_lru: rename list_lru_per_memcg to list_lru_memcg Muchun Song
2021-12-20  8:56 ` [PATCH v5 16/16] mm: memcontrol: rename memcg_cache_id to memcg_kmem_id Muchun Song

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