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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Jesse Barnes <jsbarnes@google.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
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	Michael Larabel <Michael@michaellarabel.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Ying Huang <ying.huang@intel.com>,
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	page-reclaim@google.com, x86@kernel.org,
	Konstantin Kharlamov <Hi-Angel@yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 6/9] mm: multigenerational lru: aging
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 12:57:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YeATr//U6XD87fWF@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yd9nk0qlK3jK9baN@google.com>

On Wed 12-01-22 16:43:15, Yu Zhao wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:17:53AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
[...]
> > Is there any reason you are not using folio_memcg_lock in the
> > pte walk instead?
> 
> We have a particular lruvec (the first arg), hence a particular memcg
> to lock. But we don't have a particular page to lock.

That is certainly true at this layer but the locking should be needed
only for specific pages, no? So you can move the lock down to the
callback which examines respective pages. Or is there anything
preventing that?

To be honest, and that is the reason I am asking, I really do not like
to open code the migration synchronization outside of the memcg proper.
Code paths which need a stable memcg are supposed to be using
folio_memcg_lock for the specific examination time. If you prefer a
trylock approach for this usecase then we can add one.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-13 11:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-04 20:22 [PATCH v6 0/9] Multigenerational LRU Framework Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 1/9] mm: x86, arm64: add arch_has_hw_pte_young() Yu Zhao
2022-01-05 10:45   ` Will Deacon
2022-01-05 20:47     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-06 10:30       ` Will Deacon
2022-01-07  7:25         ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-11 14:19           ` Will Deacon
2022-01-11 22:27             ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 2/9] mm: x86: add CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_NONLEAF_PMD_YOUNG Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 21:24   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 3/9] mm/vmscan.c: refactor shrink_node() Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 4/9] mm: multigenerational lru: groundwork Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 21:34   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-11  8:16   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-01-12  2:16     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 5/9] mm: multigenerational lru: mm_struct list Yu Zhao
2022-01-07  9:06   ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-08  0:19     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 15:21       ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-12  8:08         ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 6/9] mm: multigenerational lru: aging Yu Zhao
2022-01-06 16:06   ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-06 21:27     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-07  8:43       ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-07 21:12         ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-06 16:12   ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-06 21:41     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-07  8:55       ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-07  9:00         ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-10  3:58           ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 14:37             ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-13  9:43               ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-13 12:02                 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-19  6:31                   ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-19  9:44                     ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-10 15:01     ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-10 16:01       ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-01-10 16:25         ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-11 23:16       ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-12 10:28         ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-13  9:25           ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-07 13:11   ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-07 23:36     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 15:35       ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-11  1:18         ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-11  9:00           ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]         ` <1641900108.61dd684cb0e59@mail.inbox.lv>
2022-01-11 12:15           ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-13 17:00             ` Alexey Avramov
2022-01-11 14:22         ` Alexey Avramov
2022-01-07 14:44   ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-10  4:47     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 10:54       ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-19  7:04         ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-19  9:42           ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-23 21:28             ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-24 14:01               ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-10 16:57   ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-12  1:01     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-12 10:17       ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-12 23:43         ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-13 11:57           ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2022-01-23 21:40             ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 7/9] mm: multigenerational lru: eviction Yu Zhao
2022-01-11 10:37   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-01-12  8:05     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 8/9] mm: multigenerational lru: user interface Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 10:27   ` Mike Rapoport
2022-01-12  8:35     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-12 10:31       ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-12 15:45       ` Mike Rapoport
2022-01-13  9:47         ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-13 10:31   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-01-13 23:02     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-14  5:20       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-01-14  6:50         ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 9/9] mm: multigenerational lru: Kconfig Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 21:39   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v6 0/9] Multigenerational LRU Framework Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 20:30 ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-04 21:43   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-05 21:12     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-07  9:38   ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-07 18:45     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 15:39       ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-10 22:04         ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 22:46           ` Jesse Barnes
2022-01-11  1:41             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-11 10:40             ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-11  8:41   ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-11  8:53     ` Holger Hoffstätte
2022-01-11 16:04     ` Shuang Zhai
2022-01-12  1:46     ` Suleiman Souhlal
2022-01-12  6:07     ` Sofia Trinh
2022-01-18  9:21     ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-18  9:36     ` Donald Carr
2022-01-19 20:19     ` Steven Barrett
2022-01-19 22:25     ` Brian Geffon
2022-01-05  2:44 ` Shuang Zhai
2022-01-05  8:55 ` SeongJae Park
2022-01-05 10:53   ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-05 11:12     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-05 11:25     ` SeongJae Park
2022-01-05 21:06       ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-10 14:49 ` Alexey Avramov
2022-01-11 10:24 ` Alexey Avramov
2022-01-12 20:56 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-01-13  8:59   ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-23  5:43 ` Barry Song
2022-01-25  6:48   ` Yu Zhao
2022-01-28  8:54     ` Barry Song
2022-02-08  9:16       ` Yu Zhao

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