From: Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Andy Shevchenko <andy@kernel.org>,
linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org,
Michael Hennerich <michael.hennerich@analog.com>,
Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
linux-staging@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
Phillip Potter <phil@philpotter.co.uk>,
Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
Carlis <zhangxuezhi1@yulong.com>,
Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/4] fbtft: Unorphan the driver for maintenance
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 15:24:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YfFLdOKt+EZidKvc@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKMK7uEiUH8vD3jUCDPXFbF2YS5LygJLVOosbnUnvMP0MU2kTg@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 11:52:16AM +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 11:47 AM Greg Kroah-Hartman
> <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 12:02:36PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 10:52 AM Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de> wrote:
> > > > Am 25.01.22 um 21:21 schrieb Andy Shevchenko:
> > > > > Since we got a maintainer for fbdev, I would like to
> > > > > unorphan fbtft (with the idea of sending PRs to Helge)
> > > > > and move it out of staging since there is no more clean
> > > > > up work expected and no more drivers either.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Thanks for sharing yours, my answers below.
> > >
> > > > But why? We already have DRM drivers for some of these devices.
> > >
> > > No, we do not (only a few are available).
> > >
> > > > Porting
> > > > the others to DRM is such a better long-term plan. OTOH, as no one has
> > > > shown up and converted them, maybe they should be left dead or removed
> > > > entirely.
> > >
> > > As I mentioned above there are devices that nobody will take time to
> > > port to a way too complex DRM subsystem. But the devices are cheap and
> > > quite widespread in the embedded world. I'm in possession of 3 or 4
> > > different models and only 1 is supported by tiny DRM.
> >
> > Great, then let's just move the 2 models that you do not have support
> > for in DRM, not the whole lot. When we have real users for the drivers,
> > we can move them out of staging, but until then, dragging all of them
> > out does not make sense.
>
> Can't we create drm drivers for these 2-3 models? Like we have drivers
> which are below 300 lines with all the helpers taking care of
> everything, this shouldn't be too tricky.
For a few years there is no news about it. Okay, in this thread Noralf
revealed a new idea to replace pile of the drivers in FBTFT.
> And if no one cares enough for that, then imo let's just keep this in
> staging and let it quietly&slowly pass away. At least from the people
> who've been active in any kind of display development the past 6+
> years (which is roughly when Tomi abandoned fbdev as last active
> maintainer) the consensus _is_ that drm drivers are simpler, quicker
> to type (once you got hold of the subsystem and all its helpers at
> least), and adding new fbdev drivers just makes no sense at all.
--
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-26 13:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-25 20:21 [PATCH v1 0/4] fbtft: Unorphan the driver for maintenance Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-25 20:21 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] fbtft: Unorphan the driver Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 8:31 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-26 10:31 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-26 11:17 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-26 11:26 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-26 13:12 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 13:46 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-26 14:08 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 14:10 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 14:15 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 8:29 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 9:18 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-31 10:18 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 10:28 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-01 17:00 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01 17:06 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-01 19:00 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-31 11:36 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-31 12:08 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 13:23 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-31 13:24 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-31 13:55 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 14:06 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 17:34 ` Jani Nikula
2022-01-26 11:27 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-26 13:14 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 11:31 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-26 13:13 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 13:07 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 13:06 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 13:22 ` Daniel Stone
2022-01-25 20:21 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] fbtft: Move driver out from staging Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-25 20:21 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] fbtft: Kill outdated documentation Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-25 20:21 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] fbtft: Replace 'depends on FB_TFT' by 'if FB_TFT ... endif' Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-25 20:40 ` Randy Dunlap
2022-01-26 8:54 ` Joe Perches
2022-01-26 13:02 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 8:52 ` [PATCH v1 0/4] fbtft: Unorphan the driver for maintenance Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-26 10:02 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 10:04 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 10:28 ` Dan Carpenter
2022-01-26 12:37 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-26 12:56 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-26 13:18 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 13:44 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-26 13:19 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-26 13:36 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 13:17 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 10:43 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-26 10:47 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-26 10:52 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-26 11:15 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-26 13:26 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 13:24 ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2022-01-26 10:59 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-26 11:18 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-26 11:24 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-26 11:38 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-26 11:45 ` Sven Schnelle
2022-01-26 13:30 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-27 9:18 ` Maxime Ripard
2022-01-26 11:31 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-26 11:38 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-26 11:51 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-26 12:15 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-26 11:51 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-26 13:27 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 13:47 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-26 14:11 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 14:18 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-26 14:24 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-26 14:45 ` Dan Carpenter
2022-01-26 22:31 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-27 6:29 ` Dan Carpenter
2022-01-27 10:32 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2022-01-27 11:11 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-27 16:34 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2022-01-26 22:37 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-26 11:41 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-26 13:32 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 15:02 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-26 15:33 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 15:54 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-26 13:15 ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-01-26 13:21 ` Andy Shevchenko
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