From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4B0C28CF5 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 15:34:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S242896AbiAZPeg (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 Jan 2022 10:34:36 -0500 Received: from mga03.intel.com ([134.134.136.65]:12322 "EHLO mga03.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229493AbiAZPef (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 Jan 2022 10:34:35 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="6200,9189,10238"; a="246519377" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.88,318,1635231600"; d="scan'208";a="246519377" Received: from fmsmga008.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.58]) by orsmga103.jf.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 26 Jan 2022 07:34:35 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.88,318,1635231600"; d="scan'208";a="581135528" Received: from smile.fi.intel.com ([10.237.72.61]) by fmsmga008-auth.fm.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 26 Jan 2022 07:34:31 -0800 Received: from andy by smile.fi.intel.com with local (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1nCkIW-00EeDr-KP; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 17:33:24 +0200 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 17:33:24 +0200 From: Andy Shevchenko To: Thomas Zimmermann Cc: Andy Shevchenko , linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, Michael Hennerich , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Helge Deller , linux-staging@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Phillip Potter , Carlis , Lee Jones , Heiner Kallweit Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/4] fbtft: Unorphan the driver for maintenance Message-ID: References: <20220125202118.63362-1-andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> <991e988b-7225-881b-a59a-33c3eae044be@suse.de> <3877516e-3db3-f732-b44f-7fe12b175226@gmx.de> <75a10e6f-ade7-01d9-9523-9a1936f8a2cc@suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: Intel Finland Oy - BIC 0357606-4 - Westendinkatu 7, 02160 Espoo Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 04:02:23PM +0100, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > Am 26.01.22 um 14:32 schrieb Andy Shevchenko: > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 12:41:41PM +0100, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > > > Am 26.01.22 um 11:59 schrieb Helge Deller: > > > It's always for the same reason: the hw is old and devs have moved on. > > > > It's pity to have a working system with an old hardware that no one in > > the kernel community gives a shit about because simply they are not in > > the same boat. Try to be on the people's position... > > Yes, I do care about old hardware. I made helpers for converting fbdev > drivers to DRM. I even made the initial commits for those drivers where I > could find the HW on Ebay. [1] I made sure that every single of them at > least gets fbcon onto the screen. So interested devs could start > immediately. Thanks for doing that, I at least appreciate it. > Yet, no one ever showed up to convert even a single driver. I have helper in a limited way to test / enable drivers on some platforms where it wasn't possible before (you can easily see what I have done by running `git log --oneline --author="Andy Shevchenko" -- drivers/video drivers/gpu/drm drivers/staging/fbtft`), but DRM is completely new subsystem to me if we talk about driver conversion or so. -- With Best Regards, Andy Shevchenko