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From: Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.de>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Do we really need SLOB nowdays?
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2022 11:59:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YhDbrTSdSWQWFF91@ip-172-31-19-208.ap-northeast-1.compute.internal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7829ee15074448d5a7cec1a0e3c352d4@AcuMS.aculab.com>

On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 04:10:28PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> From: Hyeonggon Yoo
> > Sent: 18 February 2022 10:13
> ...
> > I think SLUB can be memory-efficient as SLOB.
> > Is SLOB (Address-Ordered next^Wfirst fit) stronger to fragmentation than SLUB?
> 
> Dunno, but I had to patch the vxworks malloc to use 'best fit'
> because 'first fit' based on a fifo free list was really horrid.
> 
> I can't imagine an address ordered 'first fit' really being that much better.
> 
> There are probably a lot more allocs and frees than the kernel used to have.
> 
> Also isn't the performance of a 'first fit' going to get horrid
> when there are a lot of small items on the free list.

SLOB is focused on low memory usage, at the cost of poor performance.
Its speed is not a concern.

I think Address-Ordered sequential fit method pretty well in terms of
low memory usage.

And I think SLUB may replace SLOB, but we need to sure SLUB is
absolute winner.. I wonder How slab maintainers think?

> 
> Does SLUB split pages into 3s and 5s (on cache lime boundaries)
> as well as powers of 2?
>

SLUB/SLAB use different strategy than SLOB, for better allocation
performance. It's variant of segregated storage method.

SLUB/SLAB both creates dedicated "caches" for each type of object. for
example, on my system, there are slab cache for dentry(192), filp(256),
fs_cache(64) ... etc.

Objects that has different types are by default managed by different cache,
which holds manages of pages. slab caches can be merged for better cacheline
utilization.

SLUB/SLAB also creates global kmalloc caches at boot time for power of 2
objects and (128, 256, 512, 1K, 2K, 4K, 8K on my system).

Thanks,
Hyeonggon.

> 	David
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-19 11:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-17  4:28 [RFC] More deterministic SLOB for real time embedded systems Hyeonggon Yoo
2021-10-17 13:36 ` segregated list + slab merging is much better than original SLOB Hyeonggon Yoo
2021-10-17 13:57   ` Do we really need SLOB nowdays? Hyeonggon Yoo
2021-10-17 14:39     ` Matthew Wilcox
     [not found]       ` <CAB=+i9Tor-tmZuB8YjATT_rv68nnF2W_TvMvyGp55AGaSyKynw@mail.gmail.com>
2021-10-25  8:17         ` Christoph Lameter
2021-10-28 10:04           ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2021-10-28 12:08             ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-30  6:12               ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2021-12-10 11:08               ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2021-12-10 12:06                 ` Christoph Lameter
2021-12-14 17:24                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-12-15  6:29                     ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2021-12-15 10:10                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-12-15 15:23                         ` Christoph Lameter
2022-02-18 10:13                         ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-02-18 10:37                           ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-02-18 16:10                           ` David Laight
2022-02-19 11:59                             ` Hyeonggon Yoo [this message]
2021-10-25  8:15     ` Christoph Lameter
2021-10-25  8:14 ` [RFC] More deterministic SLOB for real time embedded systems Christoph Lameter

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