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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: two locations: was: Re: [PATCH printk v1 03/13] printk: use percpu flag instead of cpu_online()
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 17:14:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YiI61ppIW+FsrzPu@alley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v8wwh0jw.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>

On Wed 2022-03-02 15:55:23, John Ogness wrote:
> On 2022-02-16, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> wrote:
> >> diff --git a/kernel/printk/printk.c b/kernel/printk/printk.c
> >> index d1b773823d63..b346e60e9e51 100644
> >> --- a/kernel/printk/printk.c
> >> +++ b/kernel/printk/printk.c
> >> @@ -2577,11 +2577,11 @@ static int have_callable_console(void)
> >>   *
> >>   * Console drivers may assume that per-cpu resources have been allocated. So
> >>   * unless they're explicitly marked as being able to cope (CON_ANYTIME) don't
> >> - * call them until this CPU is officially up.
> >> + * call them until per-cpu resources have been allocated.
> >>   */
> >>  static inline int can_use_console(void)
> >>  {
> >> -	return cpu_online(raw_smp_processor_id()) || have_callable_console();
> >> +	return (printk_percpu_data_ready() || have_callable_console());
> >>  }
> >
> > cpu_online(raw_smp_processor_id()) check is used also in
> > call_console_drivers(). The same logic should be used in both
> > locations.
> >
> > I found this when reviewing 6th patch that replaced both checks
> > with a single one.
> >
> > Note that I am still not sure if this change is correct at all.
> > It will allow to always call the console during CPU hotplug
> > and I am not sure if it is safe. IMHO, it might cause problems when
> > a console driver uses, for example, CPU-bound workqueues.
> 
> You are correct. We must take hotplug into account for !CON_ANYTIME
> consoles. There may be some hotplug callbacks that make memory
> unavailable for the console.
> 
> However, I will add the use of printk_percpu_data_ready() in the
> check. !CON_ANYTIME consoles also should not be called until the per-cpu
> areas are ready. For example, it would be bad if a console queued
> irq_work before per-cpu areas are setup (cpu_online() is true during
> this time).
> 
> One of my main concerns was that raw_smp_processor_id() was used for the
> check. It is conceptually wrong to exclude certain consoles based on a
> current CPU when migration is still enabled. I understand that the use
> of can_use_console() is an optimization to avoid doing extra work where
> there are no consoles available. But the task could be preemptible there
> and _conceptually_, could get moved to another CPU before its write()
> callback is called. The cpu_online() check belongs in code where
> preemption is disabled.
> 
> If the context is preemptible, I do not think it will ever see
> !cpu_online(). So I think if the cpu_online() check is limited to
> unlocking when console_trylock() was used, it will be correct.

This would require calling console_lock()/console_unlock()
in a hotplug code when cpu_online() already returns false.
Do I get it correctly?

I agree that it should not happen. console_lock() must be called in
a preemptible context. And CPU should not be in a pre-emptible
context when cpu_online() returns false. To be honest, I did
not check the code. It just does not make much sense.

> In the current implementation of printk(), it would be odd to do this
> conditional check (perhaps by passing @do_cond_resched to
> can_use_console()). But my series does significant refactoring and
> actually does need to distinguish between console_lock() and
> console_trylock() due to the kthreads and supporting the handover. So it
> should work well that the cpu_online() check for !CON_ANYTIME is only
> performed when !preemptible.
> 
> Regardless, my v2 will keep cpu_online() checks since they are necessary
> for hotplug support.

Yes, I would do it to stay on the safe side.

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-04 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-07 19:43 [PATCH printk v1 00/13] implement threaded console printing John Ogness
2022-02-07 19:43 ` [PATCH printk v1 01/13] printk: rename cpulock functions John Ogness
2022-02-11 12:44   ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-11 14:42     ` John Ogness
2022-02-11 20:57       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-02-11 21:04         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-15  9:32           ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-15  9:13       ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-14  6:49     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-02-14  9:45       ` John Ogness
2022-02-15  9:29       ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-16  3:27         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-02-17 14:34         ` John Ogness
2022-02-07 19:43 ` [PATCH printk v1 02/13] printk: cpu sync always disable interrupts John Ogness
2022-02-11 12:58   ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-14  6:36     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-02-07 19:43 ` [PATCH printk v1 03/13] printk: use percpu flag instead of cpu_online() John Ogness
2022-02-11 16:05   ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-14  7:08     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-02-14  7:35     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-02-15 10:38       ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-16  3:29         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-03-02 14:21         ` John Ogness
2022-03-04 15:56           ` Petr Mladek
2022-03-05 17:05             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-03-07 16:14               ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-16 13:58   ` two locations: was: " Petr Mladek
2022-03-02 14:49     ` John Ogness
2022-03-04 16:14       ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2022-03-07 10:06         ` John Ogness
2022-03-08 16:08       ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-07 19:43 ` [PATCH printk v1 04/13] printk: get caller_id/timestamp after migration disable John Ogness
2022-02-15  5:53   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-02-15 11:56   ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-07 19:43 ` [PATCH printk v1 05/13] printk: call boot_delay_msec() in printk_delay() John Ogness
2022-02-15  5:58   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-02-15 14:59     ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-16  3:21       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-02-15 15:03   ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-07 19:43 ` [PATCH printk v1 06/13] printk: refactor and rework printing logic John Ogness
2022-02-16 15:43   ` Petr Mladek
2022-03-02 16:10     ` John Ogness
2022-02-07 19:43 ` [PATCH printk v1 07/13] printk: move buffer definitions into console_emit_next_record() caller John Ogness
2022-02-16 16:10   ` Petr Mladek
2022-03-02 16:25     ` John Ogness
2022-02-07 19:43 ` [PATCH printk v1 08/13] printk: add pr_flush() John Ogness
2022-02-17 10:11   ` Petr Mladek
2022-03-02 17:23     ` John Ogness
2022-03-04 13:24       ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-07 19:43 ` [PATCH printk v1 09/13] printk: add functions to allow direct printing John Ogness
2022-02-17 12:52   ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-18  9:00     ` David Laight
2022-02-18 12:52       ` Petr Mladek
2022-03-03 14:37     ` John Ogness
2022-02-07 19:43 ` [PATCH printk v1 10/13] printk: add kthread console printers John Ogness
2022-02-18  9:00   ` early start: was: " Petr Mladek
2022-02-18  9:04   ` start&stop: " Petr Mladek
2022-02-18  9:08   ` main loop: " Petr Mladek
2022-02-18  9:12   ` wake_up_all: " Petr Mladek
2022-02-07 19:43 ` [PATCH printk v1 11/13] printk: reimplement console_lock for proper kthread support John Ogness
2022-02-18 16:20   ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-18 21:41     ` John Ogness
2022-02-18 22:03       ` John Ogness
2022-02-22 11:42       ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-23 17:20         ` John Ogness
2022-02-24  8:27           ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-23 10:19   ` Petr Mladek
2022-03-09 13:56     ` John Ogness
2022-03-10 14:34       ` Petr Mladek
2022-03-10 16:08         ` John Ogness
2022-03-11 10:26           ` Petr Mladek
2022-03-11 13:28             ` John Ogness
2022-03-11 16:17               ` Petr Mladek
2022-03-11 22:21                 ` John Ogness
2022-03-14 14:08                   ` Petr Mladek
2022-03-14 14:43                     ` John Ogness
2022-03-14 15:53                       ` Petr Mladek
2022-03-11 18:41               ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-07 19:43 ` [PATCH printk v1 12/13] printk: remove @console_locked John Ogness
2022-02-23 12:17   ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-07 19:43 ` [PATCH printk v1 13/13] console: introduce CON_MIGHT_SLEEP for vt John Ogness
2022-02-23 13:37   ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-23 18:31     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found] ` <20220208083620.2736-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2022-02-08 11:08   ` [PATCH printk v1 10/13] printk: add kthread console printers John Ogness
2022-02-08 14:53     ` Petr Mladek
2022-02-14  6:12       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-02-14 10:02         ` Petr Mladek

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