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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 22/23] mm: Enable PTE markers by default
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 15:59:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yl8UmWQodLX+JkZ7@xz-m1.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yl7RrKV5mXtNAAzi@cmpxchg.org>

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On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 11:13:48AM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> Hi Peter,

Hi, Johannes,

> 
> On Mon, Apr 04, 2022 at 09:49:29PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> > Enable PTE markers by default.  On x86_64 it means it'll auto-enable
> > PTE_MARKER_UFFD_WP as well.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
> > ---
> >  mm/Kconfig | 2 ++
> >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/mm/Kconfig b/mm/Kconfig
> > index 6e7c2d59fa96..3eca34c864c5 100644
> > --- a/mm/Kconfig
> > +++ b/mm/Kconfig
> > @@ -911,12 +911,14 @@ config ANON_VMA_NAME
> >  
> >  config PTE_MARKER
> >  	bool "Marker PTEs support"
> > +	default y
> >  
> >  	help
> >  	  Allows to create marker PTEs for file-backed memory.
> 
> make oldconfig just prompted me on these:
> 
> ---
> Marker PTEs support (PTE_MARKER) [Y/n/?] (NEW) ?
> 
> CONFIG_PTE_MARKER:
> 
> Allows to create marker PTEs for file-backed memory.
> 
> Symbol: PTE_MARKER [=y]
> Type  : bool
> Defined at mm/Kconfig:1046
>   Prompt: Marker PTEs support
>   Location:
>     Main menu
>       -> Memory Management options
> ---
> 
> >  config PTE_MARKER_UFFD_WP
> >  	bool "Marker PTEs support for userfaultfd write protection"
> > +	default y
> >  	depends on PTE_MARKER && HAVE_ARCH_USERFAULTFD_WP
> 
> It's not possible to answer them without looking at the code.
> 
> But after looking at the code, I'm still not sure why it asks
> me. Isn't this infrastructure code?
> 
> Wouldn't it make more sense to remove the prompt string and have
> userfaultfd simply select those?
> 
> If this is too experimental to enable per default, a more reasonable
> question for the user would be a "userfaultfd file support" option or
> something, and have *that* select the marker code.

Thanks for raising this question.

Actually it's right now enabled by default, so I kept the options just to
make sure we can always explicitly disable those options when we want.
That's majorly why I kept this patch standalone one so if we want we can
even drop it.

Said that, I fully agree with you that having two options seem to be an
overkill, especially the PTE_MARKER option will be too challenging to be
correctly understood by anyone not familiar with it.

So after a 2nd thought I'm trying to refine what I want to achieve with the
kbuild system on this new feature:

- On supported systems (x86_64), should be by default y with "make
  olddefconfig", but able to turn it off using "make oldconfig" etc., so
  the user will have a choice when they want.

- On not-supported systems (non-x86_64), should be always n without
  any prompt asking, and user won't even see this entry.

- PTE_MARKER option should always be hidden for all archs

I plan to post a patch that is attached (I also reworded the entry to not
mention about pte markers).  Does that look acceptable on your side?

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu

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From 5d25e9d685bf129a1730caa61c1545fb16c094bb Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 15:31:12 -0400
Subject: [PATCH] mm/uffd: Hide PTE_MARKER option
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The PTE_MARKER option should not need to be exposed to the kernel builder,
keep it internal and remove the prompt so it won't be seen.

Instead, make the PTE_MARKER_UFFD_WP option to explicitly choose PTE_MARKER
when necessary.

While PTE_MARKER_UFFD_WP will still prompt to user, change the wording so
that it'll not mention PTE_MARKER at all but renaming it to "Userfaultfd
write protection support for shmem/hugetlbfs".

Reported-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Signed-off-by: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
---
 mm/Kconfig | 8 ++++----
 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/mm/Kconfig b/mm/Kconfig
index 3eca34c864c5..d740e1ff3b2f 100644
--- a/mm/Kconfig
+++ b/mm/Kconfig
@@ -910,16 +910,16 @@ config ANON_VMA_NAME
 	  difference in their name.
 
 config PTE_MARKER
-	bool "Marker PTEs support"
-	default y
+	bool
 
 	help
 	  Allows to create marker PTEs for file-backed memory.
 
 config PTE_MARKER_UFFD_WP
-	bool "Marker PTEs support for userfaultfd write protection"
+	bool "Userfaultfd write protection support for shmem/hugetlbfs"
 	default y
-	depends on PTE_MARKER && HAVE_ARCH_USERFAULTFD_WP
+	depends on HAVE_ARCH_USERFAULTFD_WP
+	select PTE_MARKER
 
 	help
 	  Allows to create marker PTEs for userfaultfd write protection
-- 
2.32.0


  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-19 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-05  1:46 [PATCH v8 00/23] userfaultfd-wp: Support shmem and hugetlbfs Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:46 ` [PATCH v8 01/23] mm: Introduce PTE_MARKER swap entry Peter Xu
2022-04-12  1:07   ` Alistair Popple
2022-04-12 19:45     ` Peter Xu
2022-04-13  0:30       ` Alistair Popple
2022-04-13 13:44         ` Peter Xu
2022-04-19  8:25   ` Alistair Popple
2022-04-19 19:44     ` Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:48 ` [PATCH v8 02/23] mm: Teach core mm about pte markers Peter Xu
2022-04-12  1:22   ` Alistair Popple
2022-04-12 19:53     ` Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:48 ` [PATCH v8 03/23] mm: Check against orig_pte for finish_fault() Peter Xu
2022-04-12  2:05   ` Alistair Popple
2022-04-12 19:54     ` Peter Xu
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220413140330eucas1p167da41e079712b829ef8237dc27b049c@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2022-04-13 14:03     ` Marek Szyprowski
2022-04-13 16:43       ` Peter Xu
2022-04-14  7:51         ` Marek Szyprowski
2022-04-14 16:30           ` Peter Xu
2022-04-14 20:57             ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-14 21:08               ` Peter Xu
2022-04-15 14:21   ` Guenter Roeck
2022-04-15 14:41     ` Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:48 ` [PATCH v8 04/23] mm/uffd: PTE_MARKER_UFFD_WP Peter Xu
2022-04-06  1:41   ` kernel test robot
2022-04-05  1:48 ` [PATCH v8 05/23] mm/shmem: Take care of UFFDIO_COPY_MODE_WP Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:48 ` [PATCH v8 06/23] mm/shmem: Handle uffd-wp special pte in page fault handler Peter Xu
2022-05-11 16:30   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-05-12 16:34     ` Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:48 ` [PATCH v8 07/23] mm/shmem: Persist uffd-wp bit across zapping for file-backed Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:48 ` [PATCH v8 08/23] mm/shmem: Allow uffd wr-protect none pte for file-backed mem Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:48 ` [PATCH v8 09/23] mm/shmem: Allows file-back mem to be uffd wr-protected on thps Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:48 ` [PATCH v8 10/23] mm/shmem: Handle uffd-wp during fork() Peter Xu
2022-04-06  6:16   ` kernel test robot
2022-04-06 12:18     ` Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:48 ` [PATCH v8 11/23] mm/hugetlb: Introduce huge pte version of uffd-wp helpers Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:49 ` [PATCH v8 12/23] mm/hugetlb: Hook page faults for uffd write protection Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:49 ` [PATCH v8 13/23] mm/hugetlb: Take care of UFFDIO_COPY_MODE_WP Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:49 ` [PATCH v8 14/23] mm/hugetlb: Handle UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:49 ` [PATCH v8 15/23] mm/hugetlb: Handle pte markers in page faults Peter Xu
2022-04-06 13:37   ` kernel test robot
2022-04-06 15:02     ` Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:49 ` [PATCH v8 16/23] mm/hugetlb: Allow uffd wr-protect none ptes Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:49 ` [PATCH v8 17/23] mm/hugetlb: Only drop uffd-wp special pte if required Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:49 ` [PATCH v8 18/23] mm/hugetlb: Handle uffd-wp during fork() Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:49 ` [PATCH v8 19/23] mm/khugepaged: Don't recycle vma pgtable if uffd-wp registered Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:49 ` [PATCH v8 20/23] mm/pagemap: Recognize uffd-wp bit for shmem/hugetlbfs Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:49 ` [PATCH v8 21/23] mm/uffd: Enable write protection for shmem & hugetlbfs Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:49 ` [PATCH v8 22/23] mm: Enable PTE markers by default Peter Xu
2022-04-19 15:13   ` Johannes Weiner
2022-04-19 19:59     ` Peter Xu [this message]
2022-04-19 20:14       ` Johannes Weiner
2022-04-19 20:28         ` Peter Xu
2022-04-19 21:24           ` Johannes Weiner
2022-04-19 22:01             ` Peter Xu
2022-04-20 13:46               ` Johannes Weiner
2022-04-20 14:25                 ` Peter Xu
2022-04-05  1:49 ` [PATCH v8 23/23] selftests/uffd: Enable uffd-wp for shmem/hugetlbfs Peter Xu
2022-04-05 22:16 ` [PATCH v8 00/23] userfaultfd-wp: Support shmem and hugetlbfs Andrew Morton
2022-04-05 22:42   ` Peter Xu
2022-04-05 22:49     ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-05 23:02       ` Peter Xu
2022-04-05 23:08         ` Andrew Morton
2022-05-10 19:05 ` Andrew Morton

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