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From: Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>
To: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	james.morse@arm.com, Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	LAK <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Xiongchun duan <duanxiongchun@bytedance.com>,
	Fam Zheng <fam.zheng@bytedance.com>,
	Muchun Song <smuchun@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] arm64: mm: hugetlb: Enable HUGETLB_PAGE_FREE_VMEMMAP for arm64
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2022 18:40:41 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YlQFqf9/VSyiZVKG@FVFYT0MHHV2J.usts.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46a99793-2e24-f3c5-c63f-ab2ad88966ea@arm.com>

On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 02:47:26PM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> 
> 
> On 4/5/22 14:08, Muchun Song wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 12:44 PM Anshuman Khandual
> > <anshuman.khandual@arm.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/31/22 12:26, Muchun Song wrote:
> >>> 1st concern:
> >>> '''
> >>> But what happens when a hot remove section's vmemmap area (which is
> >>> being teared down) is nearby another vmemmap area which is either created
> >>> or being destroyed for HugeTLB alloc/free purpose. As you mentioned
> >>> HugeTLB pages inside the hot remove section might be safe. But what about
> >>> other HugeTLB areas whose vmemmap area shares page table entries with
> >>> vmemmap entries for a section being hot removed ? Massive HugeTLB alloc
> >>> /use/free test cycle using memory just adjacent to a memory hotplug area,
> >>> which is always added and removed periodically, should be able to expose
> >>> this problem.
> >>> '''
> >>>
> >>> Answer: At the time memory is removed, all HugeTLB pages either have been
> >>> migrated away or dissolved.  So there is no race between memory hot remove
> >>> and free_huge_page_vmemmap().  Therefore, HugeTLB pages inside the hot
> >>> remove section is safe.  Let's talk your question "what about other
> >>
> >> HugeTLB pages inside the memory range is safe but concern is about the
> >> vmemmap mapping for the HugeTLB which might share intermediate entries
> >> with vmemmap mapping for the memory range/section being removed.
> > 
> > The shared page table level only could be PMD, PUD and PGD, the PTE
> > page table cannot be shared with other sections, and we only exchange
> > PTEs for vmemmap mapping.
> 
> Right, the shared entries (if any) are not at the leaf level.
> 
> > 
> >>
> >>> HugeTLB areas whose vmemmap area shares page table entries with vmemmap
> >>> entries for a section being hot removed ?", the question is not
> >>
> >> Right.
> >>
> >>> established.  The minimal granularity size of hotplug memory 128MB (on
> >>> arm64, 4k base page), any HugeTLB smaller than 128MB is within a section,
> >>> then, there is no share PTE page tables between HugeTLB in this section
> >>
> >> 128MB is the hot removable granularity but, its corresponding vmemmap
> >> range is smaller i.e (128MB/4K) * sizeof(struct page). Memory section
> >> getting hot removed (its vmemmap mapping being teared down) along with
> >> HugeTLB (on another section) vmemmap remap operation, could not collide
> >> while inside vmemmap mapping areas on init_mm ?
> > 
> > The boundary address of a section is aligned with 128MB and its
> > corresponding vmemmap boundary address is aligned with 2MB
> > which is mapped with a separated PTE page table (or a PMD entry).
> 
> Even if these PMD entries split during HugeTLB remapping, they will not
> conflict with another memory section being removed simultaneously. Also
> any shared page table pages will not be freed, during memory hot remove
> operation as vmemmap remap does not delete any entries.
> 
> But just wondering if during PMD slit and PTE page table page addition,
> these PMD entries could not be empty, even temporarily ?
>

The pmd entry is either a PTE page table or a PMD leaf entry, it cannot
be a empty entry forever.  More details can refer to
__split_vmemmap_huge_pmd().

Thanks.
 

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-11 10:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-31  6:56 [PATCH v4 1/2] mm: hugetlb_vmemmap: introduce ARCH_WANT_HUGETLB_PAGE_FREE_VMEMMAP Muchun Song
2022-03-31  6:56 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] arm64: mm: hugetlb: Enable HUGETLB_PAGE_FREE_VMEMMAP for arm64 Muchun Song
2022-03-31 22:31   ` Barry Song
2022-04-04  9:26   ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-04-04 12:01     ` Muchun Song
2022-04-05  3:34       ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-04-05  3:49         ` Muchun Song
2022-04-05  4:45   ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-04-05  8:38     ` Muchun Song
2022-04-11  9:17       ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-04-11 10:40         ` Muchun Song [this message]
2022-04-11 10:12   ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-04-11 11:55     ` Muchun Song
2022-04-13 10:33   ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-04-13 14:59     ` Muchun Song
2022-03-31  8:42 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] mm: hugetlb_vmemmap: introduce ARCH_WANT_HUGETLB_PAGE_FREE_VMEMMAP David Hildenbrand
2022-03-31  8:48   ` Muchun Song
2022-03-31  8:50     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-31  8:53       ` Muchun Song
2022-03-31 22:19 ` Barry Song
2022-04-04  9:05 ` Anshuman Khandual

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