From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.de>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Aaron Tomlin <atomlin@redhat.com>,
frederic@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@kernel.org,
pauld@redhat.com, neelx@redhat.com, oleksandr@natalenko.name,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3] tick/sched: Ensure quiet_vmstat() is called when the idle tick was stopped too
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2022 11:57:31 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yma229h8meLFvCI1@fuller.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.22.394.2204251603570.25814@gentwo.de>
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 04:06:04PM +0200, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> > > Folding the vmstat diffs *always* when entering idle prevents unnecessary
> > > wakeups and processing in the future and also provides more accurate
> > > counters for the VM allowing better decision to be made on reclaim.
> >
> > I'm thinking you're going to find a ton of regressions if you try it
> > though; some workloads go idle *very* shortly, doing all this accounting
> > is going to be counter-productive.
>
> Well there is usually not much to do in terms of accounting.
static int refresh_cpu_vm_stats(bool do_pagesets)
{
struct pglist_data *pgdat;
struct zone *zone;
int i;
int global_zone_diff[NR_VM_ZONE_STAT_ITEMS] = { 0, };
int global_node_diff[NR_VM_NODE_STAT_ITEMS] = { 0, };
int changes = 0;
for_each_populated_zone(zone) {
struct per_cpu_zonestat __percpu *pzstats = zone->per_cpu_zonestats;
#ifdef CONFIG_NUMA
struct per_cpu_pages __percpu *pcp = zone->per_cpu_pageset;
#endif
for (i = 0; i < NR_VM_ZONE_STAT_ITEMS; i++) {
int v;
v = this_cpu_xchg(pzstats->vm_stat_diff[i], 0);
if (v) {
This loop is quite heavy. Maybe reducing the data necessary to be read
to a couple of cachelines would improve it considerably.
> If there are
> a lot of updates then it is worthwhile because if the numbers are off too
> much then the VM has trouble assessing its own situation.
>
> It may depend though on how long the idle periods are. Do we have
> statistics on the duration? Always folding the vmstat deltas may also
> increase the length of the idle periods.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-04-25 14:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-04-22 19:36 [RFC PATCH v3] tick/sched: Ensure quiet_vmstat() is called when the idle tick was stopped too Aaron Tomlin
2022-04-25 7:23 ` Christoph Lameter
2022-04-25 11:39 ` Aaron Tomlin
2022-04-25 12:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2022-04-25 13:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-25 14:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2022-04-25 14:51 ` Aaron Tomlin
2022-04-25 14:57 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2022-04-25 14:17 ` Aaron Tomlin
2022-04-25 19:21 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2022-04-27 11:50 ` Aaron Tomlin
2022-04-27 14:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-04-27 14:49 ` Aaron Tomlin
2022-04-28 18:10 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2022-05-04 9:32 ` Aaron Tomlin
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