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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Alexander Popov <alex.popov@linux.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, keescook@chromium.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, luto@kernel.org, will@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 03/13] stackleak: remove redundant check
Date: Tue, 10 May 2022 12:46:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YnpQqBwYjlVffJk8@FVFF77S0Q05N> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a604fa2b-e7c3-3fff-dd81-1a0585a9e2fa@linux.com>

On Sun, May 08, 2022 at 09:17:01PM +0300, Alexander Popov wrote:
> On 27.04.2022 20:31, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > In __stackleak_erase() we check that the `erase_low` value derived from
> > `current->lowest_stack` is above the lowest legitimate stack pointer
> > value, but this is already enforced by stackleak_track_stack() when
> > recording the lowest stack value.
> > 
> > Remove the redundant check.
> > 
> > There should be no functional change as a result of this patch.
> 
> Mark, I can't agree here. I think this check is important.
> The performance profit from dropping it is less than the confidence decrease :)
> 
> With this check, if the 'lowest_stack' value is corrupted, stackleak doesn't
> overwrite some wrong kernel memory, but simply clears the whole thread
> stack, which is safe behavior.

If you feel strongly about it, I can restore the check, but I struggle to
believe that it's worthwhile. The `lowest_stack` value lives in the
task_struct, and if you have the power to corrupt that you have the power to do
much more interesting things.

If we do restore it, I'd like to add a big fat comment explaining the
rationale (i.e. that it only matter if someone could corrupt
`current->lowest_stack`, as otherwise that's guarnateed to be within bounds).

Thanks,
Mark.

> > Signed-off-by: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
> > Cc: Alexander Popov <alex.popov@linux.com>
> > Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> > Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
> > ---
> >   kernel/stackleak.c | 4 ----
> >   1 file changed, 4 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/kernel/stackleak.c b/kernel/stackleak.c
> > index 753eab797a04d..f7a0f8cf73c37 100644
> > --- a/kernel/stackleak.c
> > +++ b/kernel/stackleak.c
> > @@ -78,10 +78,6 @@ static __always_inline void __stackleak_erase(void)
> >   	unsigned int poison_count = 0;
> >   	const unsigned int depth = STACKLEAK_SEARCH_DEPTH / sizeof(unsigned long);
> > -	/* Check that 'lowest_stack' value is sane */
> > -	if (unlikely(kstack_ptr - boundary >= THREAD_SIZE))
> > -		kstack_ptr = boundary;
> > -
> >   	/* Search for the poison value in the kernel stack */
> >   	while (kstack_ptr > boundary && poison_count <= depth) {
> >   		if (*(unsigned long *)kstack_ptr == STACKLEAK_POISON)
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-10 11:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-27 17:31 [PATCH v2 00/13] stackleak: fixes and rework Mark Rutland
2022-04-27 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] arm64: stackleak: fix current_top_of_stack() Mark Rutland
2022-05-04 16:41   ` Catalin Marinas
2022-05-04 19:01     ` Kees Cook
2022-05-04 19:55       ` Catalin Marinas
2022-05-05  8:25         ` Will Deacon
2022-05-08 17:24   ` Alexander Popov
2022-05-10 11:36     ` Mark Rutland
2022-04-27 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] stackleak: move skip_erasing() check earlier Mark Rutland
2022-05-08 17:44   ` Alexander Popov
2022-05-10 11:40     ` Mark Rutland
2022-04-27 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 03/13] stackleak: remove redundant check Mark Rutland
2022-05-08 18:17   ` Alexander Popov
2022-05-10 11:46     ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2022-05-11  3:00       ` Kees Cook
2022-05-11  8:02         ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-11 14:44           ` Kees Cook
2022-05-12  9:14             ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-15 16:17               ` Alexander Popov
2022-05-24 10:03                 ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-26 22:09                   ` Alexander Popov
2022-04-27 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] stackleak: rework stack low bound handling Mark Rutland
2022-04-27 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] stackleak: clarify variable names Mark Rutland
2022-05-08 20:49   ` Alexander Popov
2022-05-10 13:01     ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-11  3:05       ` Kees Cook
2022-04-27 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] stackleak: rework stack high bound handling Mark Rutland
2022-05-08 21:27   ` Alexander Popov
2022-05-10 11:22     ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-15 16:32       ` Alexander Popov
2022-04-27 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] stackleak: rework poison scanning Mark Rutland
2022-05-09 13:51   ` Alexander Popov
2022-05-10 13:13     ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-15 17:33       ` Alexander Popov
2022-05-24 13:31         ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-26 23:25           ` Alexander Popov
2022-05-31 18:13             ` Kees Cook
2022-06-03 16:55               ` Alexander Popov
2022-04-27 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 08/13] lkdtm/stackleak: avoid spurious failure Mark Rutland
2022-04-27 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] lkdtm/stackleak: rework boundary management Mark Rutland
2022-05-04 19:07   ` Kees Cook
2022-04-27 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] lkdtm/stackleak: prevent unexpected stack usage Mark Rutland
2022-04-27 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] lkdtm/stackleak: check stack boundaries Mark Rutland
2022-04-27 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] stackleak: add on/off stack variants Mark Rutland
2022-04-27 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 13/13] arm64: entry: use stackleak_erase_on_task_stack() Mark Rutland
2022-05-04 16:42   ` Catalin Marinas
2022-05-04 19:16 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] stackleak: fixes and rework Kees Cook

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