linux-kernel.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: "T.J. Mercier" <tjmercier@google.com>
Cc: "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
	"Nicolas Dufresne" <nicolas@ndufresne.ca>,
	"Zefan Li" <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>,
	"Todd Kjos" <tkjos@android.com>,
	"Martijn Coenen" <maco@android.com>,
	"Joel Fernandes" <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
	"Hridya Valsaraju" <hridya@google.com>,
	"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Benjamin Gaignard" <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com>,
	"Liam Mark" <lmark@codeaurora.org>,
	"Laura Abbott" <labbott@redhat.com>,
	"Brian Starkey" <Brian.Starkey@arm.com>,
	"John Stultz" <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"John Stultz" <jstultz@google.com>,
	"Carlos Llamas" <cmllamas@google.com>,
	"Kalesh Singh" <kaleshsingh@google.com>,
	Kenny.Ho@amd.com, "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Shuah Khan" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	kernel-team@android.com, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/6] Proposal for a GPU cgroup controller
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2022 22:17:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YrYbwu0iIAJJGXVg@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABdmKX0WV8VWgeafVGJ++nJ4xsJD7Wpz=3KX=BW1du=huttfvw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 10:31:21AM -0700, T.J. Mercier wrote:
> On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 9:25 AM T.J. Mercier <tjmercier@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 12:47 AM Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 04:30:29PM -0700, T.J. Mercier wrote:
> > > > Thanks for your suggestion. This almost works. "dmabuf" as a key could
> > > > work, but I'd actually like to account for each heap. Since heaps can
> > > > be dynamically added, I can't accommodate every potential heap name by
> > > > hardcoding registrations in the misc controller.
> > >
> > > On its own, that's a pretty weak reason to be adding a separate gpu
> > > controller especially given that it doesn't really seem to be one with
> > > proper abstractions for gpu resources. We don't want to keep adding random
> > > keys to misc controller but can definitely add limited flexibility. What
> > > kind of keys do you need?
> > >
> > Well the dmabuf-from-heaps component of this is the initial use case.
> > I was envisioning we'd have additional keys as discussed here:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220328035951.1817417-1-tjmercier@google.com/T/#m82e5fe9d8674bb60160701e52dae4356fea2ddfa
> > So we'd end up with a well-defined core set of keys like "system", and
> > then drivers would be free to use their own keys for their own unique
> > purposes which could be complementary or orthogonal to the core set.
> > Yesterday I was talking with someone who is interested in limiting gpu
> > cores and bus IDs in addition to gpu memory. How to define core keys
> > is the part where it looks like there's trouble.
> >
> > For my use case it would be sufficient to have current and maximum
> > values for an arbitrary number of keys - one per heap. So the only
> > part missing from the misc controller (for my use case) is the ability
> > to register a new key at runtime as heaps are added. Instead of
> > keeping track of resources with enum misc_res_type, requesting a
> > resource handle/ID from the misc controller at runtime is what I think
> > would be required instead.
> >
> Quick update: I'm going to make an attempt to modify the misc
> controller to support a limited amount of dynamic resource
> registration/tracking in place of the new controller in this series.
> 
> Thanks everyone for the feedback.

Somehow I missed this entire chain here.

I'm not a fan, because I'm kinda hoping we could finally unify gpu memory
account. Atm everyone just adds their one-off solution in a random corner:
- total tracking in misc cgroup controller
- dma-buf sysfs files (except apparently too slow so it'll get deleted
  again)
- random other stuff on open device files os OOM killer can see it

This doesn't look good.
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-24 20:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-10 23:56 [PATCH v7 0/6] Proposal for a GPU cgroup controller T.J. Mercier
2022-05-10 23:56 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] gpu: rfc: " T.J. Mercier
2022-05-10 23:56 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] cgroup: gpu: Add a cgroup controller for allocator attribution of GPU memory T.J. Mercier
2022-05-10 23:56 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] dmabuf: heaps: export system_heap buffers with GPU cgroup charging T.J. Mercier
2022-05-10 23:56 ` [PATCH v7 4/6] dmabuf: Add gpu cgroup charge transfer function T.J. Mercier
2022-05-10 23:56 ` [PATCH v7 5/6] binder: Add flags to relinquish ownership of fds T.J. Mercier
2022-05-10 23:56 ` [PATCH v7 6/6] selftests: Add binder cgroup gpu memory transfer tests T.J. Mercier
2022-05-21 10:15   ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2022-05-11 13:21 ` [PATCH v7 0/6] Proposal for a GPU cgroup controller Nicolas Dufresne
2022-05-11 20:31   ` T.J. Mercier
2022-05-12 13:09     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2022-05-13  3:43       ` T.J. Mercier
2022-05-13 16:13         ` Tejun Heo
2022-05-17 23:30           ` T.J. Mercier
2022-05-20  7:47             ` Tejun Heo
2022-05-20 16:25               ` T.J. Mercier
2022-06-15 17:31                 ` T.J. Mercier
2022-06-24 20:17                   ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2022-06-24 20:32                     ` John Stultz
2022-06-24 20:36                       ` Daniel Vetter
2022-06-24 21:17                         ` T.J. Mercier
2022-05-19  9:30 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] gpu: rfc: " eballetbo
2022-05-21  2:19   ` T.J. Mercier
2022-05-19 10:52 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] cgroup: gpu: Add a cgroup controller for allocator attribution of GPU memory eballetbo
2022-05-20 16:33   ` T.J. Mercier

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=YrYbwu0iIAJJGXVg@phenom.ffwll.local \
    --to=daniel@ffwll.ch \
    --cc=Brian.Starkey@arm.com \
    --cc=Kenny.Ho@amd.com \
    --cc=arve@android.com \
    --cc=benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com \
    --cc=brauner@kernel.org \
    --cc=cgroups@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=christian.koenig@amd.com \
    --cc=cmllamas@google.com \
    --cc=corbet@lwn.net \
    --cc=dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org \
    --cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
    --cc=hannes@cmpxchg.org \
    --cc=hridya@google.com \
    --cc=joel@joelfernandes.org \
    --cc=john.stultz@linaro.org \
    --cc=jstultz@google.com \
    --cc=kaleshsingh@google.com \
    --cc=kernel-team@android.com \
    --cc=labbott@redhat.com \
    --cc=linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org \
    --cc=linux-doc@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-media@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=lizefan.x@bytedance.com \
    --cc=lmark@codeaurora.org \
    --cc=maco@android.com \
    --cc=mkoutny@suse.com \
    --cc=nicolas@ndufresne.ca \
    --cc=shuah@kernel.org \
    --cc=skhan@linuxfoundation.org \
    --cc=sumit.semwal@linaro.org \
    --cc=surenb@google.com \
    --cc=tj@kernel.org \
    --cc=tjmercier@google.com \
    --cc=tkjos@android.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).