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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 04/19] KVM: x86: mmu: allow to enable write tracking externally
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2022 16:08:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yt6/9V0S9of7dueW@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c22a18631c2067871b9ed8a9246ad58fa1ab8947.camel@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jul 20, 2022, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> On Sun, 2022-05-22 at 13:22 +0300, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > On Thu, 2022-05-19 at 16:37 +0000, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > > > @@ -5753,6 +5752,10 @@ int kvm_mmu_init_vm(struct kvm *kvm)
> Now for nested AVIC, this is what I would like to do:
>  
> - just like mmu, I prefer to register the write tracking notifier, when the
>   VM is created.
>
> - just like mmu, write tracking should only be enabled when nested AVIC is
>   actually used first time, so that write tracking is not always enabled when
>   you just boot a VM with nested avic supported, since the VM might not use
>   nested at all.
>  
> Thus I either need to use the __kvm_page_track_register_notifier too for AVIC
> (and thus need to export it) or I need to have a boolean
> (nested_avic_was_used_once) and register the write tracking notifier only
> when false and do it not on VM creation but on first attempt to use nested
> AVIC.
>  
> Do you think this is worth it? I mean there is some value of registering the
> notifier only when needed (this way it is not called for nothing) but it does
> complicate things a bit.

Compared to everything else that you're doing in the nested AVIC code, refcounting
the shared kvm_page_track_notifier_node object is a trivial amount of complexity.

And on that topic, do you have performance numbers to justify using a single
shared node?  E.g. if every table instance has its own notifier, then no additional
refcounting is needed.  It's not obvious that a shared node will provide better
performance, e.g. if there are only a handful of AVIC tables being shadowed, then
a linear walk of all nodes is likely fast enough, and doesn't bring the risk of
a write potentially being stalled due to having to acquire a VM-scoped mutex.

> I can also stash this boolean (like 'bool registered;') into the 'struct
> kvm_page_track_notifier_node',  and thus allow the
> kvm_page_track_register_notifier to be called more that once -  then I can
> also get rid of __kvm_page_track_register_notifier. 

No, allowing redundant registration without proper refcounting leads to pain,
e.g. X registers, Y registers, X unregisters, kaboom.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-25 16:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-27 20:02 [RFC PATCH v3 00/19] RFC: nested AVIC Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/19] KVM: x86: document AVIC/APICv inhibit reasons Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-18 15:56   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-18 17:13     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/19] KVM: x86: inhibit APICv/AVIC when the guest and/or host changes apic id/base from the defaults Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-18  8:28   ` Chao Gao
2022-05-18  9:50     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-18 11:51       ` Chao Gao
2022-05-18 12:36         ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-18 15:39       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-18 17:15         ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-19 16:06   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-22  9:03     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-22 14:47       ` Jim Mattson
2022-05-23  6:50         ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-23 17:22           ` Jim Mattson
2022-05-23 17:31           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-23  9:44     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/19] KVM: x86: SVM: remove avic's broken code that updated APIC ID Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-19 16:10   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-22  9:01     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-23 17:19       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-27 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/19] KVM: x86: mmu: allow to enable write tracking externally Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-19 16:27   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-22 10:21     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-19 16:37   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-22 10:22     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-07-20 14:42       ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-07-25 16:08         ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2022-07-28  7:46           ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-01 15:53             ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-08-01 17:20             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-08 13:13               ` Nested AVIC design (was:Re: [RFC PATCH v3 04/19] KVM: x86: mmu: allow to enable write tracking externally) Maxim Levitsky
2022-09-29 22:38                 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-10-03  7:27                   ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-11-10  0:47                     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/19] x86: KVMGT: use kvm_page_track_write_tracking_enable Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-19 16:38   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/19] KVM: x86: mmu: add gfn_in_memslot helper Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-19 16:43   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-22 10:22     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-22 12:12     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/19] KVM: x86: mmu: tweak fast path for emulation of access to nested NPT pages Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/19] KVM: x86: SVM: move avic state to separate struct Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/19] KVM: x86: nSVM: add nested AVIC tracepoints Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/19] KVM: x86: nSVM: implement AVIC's physid/logid table access helpers Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 11/19] KVM: x86: nSVM: implement shadowing of AVIC's physical id table Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 12/19] KVM: x86: nSVM: make nested AVIC physid write tracking be aware of the host scheduling Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 13/19] KVM: x86: nSVM: wire nested AVIC to nested guest entry/exit Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 14/19] KVM: x86: rename .set_apic_access_page_addr to reload_apic_access_page Maxim Levitsky
2022-05-19 16:55   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-22 10:22     ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 15/19] KVM: x86: nSVM: add code to reload AVIC physid table when it is invalidated Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 16/19] KVM: x86: nSVM: implement support for nested AVIC vmexits Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 17/19] KVM: x86: nSVM: implement nested AVIC doorbell emulation Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 18/19] KVM: x86: SVM/nSVM: add optional non strict AVIC doorbell mode Maxim Levitsky
2022-04-27 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 19/19] KVM: x86: nSVM: expose the nested AVIC to the guest Maxim Levitsky

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